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		<title>By: Lindsay Stordahl</title>
		<link>http://www.thatmutt.com/2008/09/03/breaking-a-dogs-ball-obsession-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-34270</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Stordahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very frustrating, isn&#039;t it, Salinda? One thing I would definitely do is teach a &quot;leave it&quot; command. Ace knows leave it, which I&#039;ve taught him to mean &quot;don&#039;t touch.&quot; When we are at the dog park and he brings me a ball, I will take it, set it near me as a way to &quot;claim it&quot; and then I say in an almost angry voice to make sure I&#039;m getting through to him, &quot;Leave it!&quot; He will often just attempt to sit there and fixate on it without touching it, so then I try to distract him with something else or grab him by the collar and walk away. He has gotten a lot better, but I used to go to the dog park during quiet hours so I could work on this with him without other people around as it&#039;s kind of embarassing :)

You can do other things such as refusing to throw the ball until Maggie gives you eye contact. You can either teach her a command for this such as watch or simply wait her out (could take 20 mins or so if she&#039;s as obsessed as my dog) and mark the eye contact with &quot;Yes!&quot; or &quot;Good!&quot; and throw the ball. You can slowly work with her so she has to hold eye contact longer before you throw the ball.

I also took Ace to a Frisbee class last month (I know, crazy to bring a retrieving obsessed dog to a Frisbee class, right?) But he actually did really well. If he fixated on one disc, the trainer just grabbed a second disc and moved it around to get his attention. It helped  keep him from fixating on any one disc.

Here&#039;s a post I wrote about the eye contact thing during retrieving sessions: http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/05/12/tennis-ball-obsession/

I wish you the best of luck! Be patient and let me know if you come up with something that works well. Believe me, I could use some suggestions too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very frustrating, isn&#8217;t it, Salinda? One thing I would definitely do is teach a &#8220;leave it&#8221; command. Ace knows leave it, which I&#8217;ve taught him to mean &#8220;don&#8217;t touch.&#8221; When we are at the dog park and he brings me a ball, I will take it, set it near me as a way to &#8220;claim it&#8221; and then I say in an almost angry voice to make sure I&#8217;m getting through to him, &#8220;Leave it!&#8221; He will often just attempt to sit there and fixate on it without touching it, so then I try to distract him with something else or grab him by the collar and walk away. He has gotten a lot better, but I used to go to the dog park during quiet hours so I could work on this with him without other people around as it&#8217;s kind of embarassing <img src='http://www.thatmutt.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You can do other things such as refusing to throw the ball until Maggie gives you eye contact. You can either teach her a command for this such as watch or simply wait her out (could take 20 mins or so if she&#8217;s as obsessed as my dog) and mark the eye contact with &#8220;Yes!&#8221; or &#8220;Good!&#8221; and throw the ball. You can slowly work with her so she has to hold eye contact longer before you throw the ball.</p>
<p>I also took Ace to a Frisbee class last month (I know, crazy to bring a retrieving obsessed dog to a Frisbee class, right?) But he actually did really well. If he fixated on one disc, the trainer just grabbed a second disc and moved it around to get his attention. It helped  keep him from fixating on any one disc.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a post I wrote about the eye contact thing during retrieving sessions: <a href="http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/05/12/tennis-ball-obsession/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thatmutt.com%2F2009%2F05%2F12%2Ftennis-ball-obsession%2F','http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thatmutt.com%2F2009%2F05%2F12%2Ftennis-ball-obsession%2F')" rel="nofollow">http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/05/12/tennis-ball-obsession/</a></p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck! Be patient and let me know if you come up with something that works well. Believe me, I could use some suggestions too!</p>
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		<title>By: Salinda</title>
		<link>http://www.thatmutt.com/2008/09/03/breaking-a-dogs-ball-obsession-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-34076</link>
		<dc:creator>Salinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, my 2 yr old 68 lb bulldog, is a ball freak. She will only chase the ball she first slobbered on. We threw 5 balls together and she hunted hers out. She tries to drink water with it in her mouth. She does not lose interest and gets very intense about her ball, the one she started with. She is only interested in it where fetch is possible. Stick, ball, rag, anything goes. She is in fantastic shape and will take the ball to everyone in the dog park to get them to throw it. I have to remove her from the park to stop her. HELP!
Tried your great ideas but she is a BULLDOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, my 2 yr old 68 lb bulldog, is a ball freak. She will only chase the ball she first slobbered on. We threw 5 balls together and she hunted hers out. She tries to drink water with it in her mouth. She does not lose interest and gets very intense about her ball, the one she started with. She is only interested in it where fetch is possible. Stick, ball, rag, anything goes. She is in fantastic shape and will take the ball to everyone in the dog park to get them to throw it. I have to remove her from the park to stop her. HELP!<br />
Tried your great ideas but she is a BULLDOG.</p>
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		<title>By: castocreations hzk</title>
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		<dc:creator>castocreations hzk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*grin* Our dogs have their own toy box...a basket of toys and bones. Sometimes Trooper will drag out every single bone. It&#039;s hilarious to watch him systematically dig through all the toys to get every bone out. LOL :) I don&#039;t think any of our dogs are obsessed with any of their toys. Not that I&#039;ve noticed so far anyway. We&#039;ll see about our newest addition - I pick him up in less than two hours!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*grin* Our dogs have their own toy box&#8230;a basket of toys and bones. Sometimes Trooper will drag out every single bone. It&#8217;s hilarious to watch him systematically dig through all the toys to get every bone out. LOL <img src='http://www.thatmutt.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I don&#8217;t think any of our dogs are obsessed with any of their toys. Not that I&#8217;ve noticed so far anyway. We&#8217;ll see about our newest addition &#8211; I pick him up in less than two hours!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Stordahl</title>
		<link>http://www.thatmutt.com/2008/09/03/breaking-a-dogs-ball-obsession-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3692</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Stordahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have lost my marbles, St. Lover!

All I want is for him is to be able to control himself when there is a ball involved. We should be able to play for ten minutes and then stop. I agree, the retrieving instinct in him will always be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have lost my marbles, St. Lover!</p>
<p>All I want is for him is to be able to control himself when there is a ball involved. We should be able to play for ten minutes and then stop. I agree, the retrieving instinct in him will always be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be honest with you when I read your first post about breaking his ball obsession and I thought you had totally lost your marbles.  Being that he is a retriever he has been bred for generations to have that strong desire to retrieve objects and bring them to you.  It is a very desirable trait and would be bred over and over to increase drive.  Having said that, he is not a working dog so it is much harder to deal with and will take some creative management to keep in check. Preventing his desire to chase the ball or toy or stick is absolutely impossible.  What I am reading from you now seems much more reasonable and I encourage you on the path you are heading.  Management is key.  He is still technically a puppy and as a lab will be classed as one until he is 3-4 years old.  

Since his stamina is so high, simply wearing him out doesnt seem to have the same effects that it would in other dogs so here is where you need to get creative.  Emotional stimulation may be your salvation.  Trust me, I am not trying to blow smoke up your hind end.. I have 4 labs and have had to deal with some really ridiculous behaviors out of them and sometimes exercise just isnt enough.  Hiding his prized balls in various locations and encouraging him to find them, giving him calm but short praise when he finds it and brings it to you.  Immediately divert YOUR attention elsewhere and let him sort out his feelings with the ball.  When the ball does not represent an animated game, he will loose his fixated desire - remember it takes two to tango.  It takes time, but consistency is key.  Use the ball obsession to your advantage, as a reward for something you want him to do.  Apollo uses his ducky or wubba to train in agility.  He fixates on the toy and moves over the obstacle.  He is immediately rewarded with the toy when his task is completed.  I take it back and we repeat.  The ball diverts his attention away from the scary unknown and is a high value reward.  Use his desire to your advantage.

I think you are on the right track by leaving the toys accessible at all times (as long as he is not destructive and can hurt himself) so that he does not view it as such a scarce resource.  You will probably notice him running to get a toy and bring it to you when you enter the room, or come home or get up.. mine do this and I call it labragifting.  Hera is quite assertive with her labragifting. I praise her for bringing me the toy and then ignore it.  She soon looses interest and drops it off somewhere in the room.  Its a natural retriever thing.

Keep up the good work and relax. He is still a long way away from being an adult dog. ;)

Saint Lovers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://itsthedogslife.com/2008/09/paws-in-the-pool-groveport/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paws in the Pool - Groveport&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be honest with you when I read your first post about breaking his ball obsession and I thought you had totally lost your marbles.  Being that he is a retriever he has been bred for generations to have that strong desire to retrieve objects and bring them to you.  It is a very desirable trait and would be bred over and over to increase drive.  Having said that, he is not a working dog so it is much harder to deal with and will take some creative management to keep in check. Preventing his desire to chase the ball or toy or stick is absolutely impossible.  What I am reading from you now seems much more reasonable and I encourage you on the path you are heading.  Management is key.  He is still technically a puppy and as a lab will be classed as one until he is 3-4 years old.  </p>
<p>Since his stamina is so high, simply wearing him out doesnt seem to have the same effects that it would in other dogs so here is where you need to get creative.  Emotional stimulation may be your salvation.  Trust me, I am not trying to blow smoke up your hind end.. I have 4 labs and have had to deal with some really ridiculous behaviors out of them and sometimes exercise just isnt enough.  Hiding his prized balls in various locations and encouraging him to find them, giving him calm but short praise when he finds it and brings it to you.  Immediately divert YOUR attention elsewhere and let him sort out his feelings with the ball.  When the ball does not represent an animated game, he will loose his fixated desire &#8211; remember it takes two to tango.  It takes time, but consistency is key.  Use the ball obsession to your advantage, as a reward for something you want him to do.  Apollo uses his ducky or wubba to train in agility.  He fixates on the toy and moves over the obstacle.  He is immediately rewarded with the toy when his task is completed.  I take it back and we repeat.  The ball diverts his attention away from the scary unknown and is a high value reward.  Use his desire to your advantage.</p>
<p>I think you are on the right track by leaving the toys accessible at all times (as long as he is not destructive and can hurt himself) so that he does not view it as such a scarce resource.  You will probably notice him running to get a toy and bring it to you when you enter the room, or come home or get up.. mine do this and I call it labragifting.  Hera is quite assertive with her labragifting. I praise her for bringing me the toy and then ignore it.  She soon looses interest and drops it off somewhere in the room.  Its a natural retriever thing.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work and relax. He is still a long way away from being an adult dog. <img src='http://www.thatmutt.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Saint Lovers last blog post..<a href="http://itsthedogslife.com/2008/09/paws-in-the-pool-groveport/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fitsthedogslife.com%2F2008%2F09%2Fpaws-in-the-pool-groveport%2F','Paws+in+the+Pool+-+Groveport')" rel="nofollow">Paws in the Pool &#8211; Groveport</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like some progress already!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like some progress already!  <img src='http://www.thatmutt.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Biggie-Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggie-Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture is great! Ace still looks like he&#039;s about to spring up, but at least he&#039;s looking at you.

Biggie-Zs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://biggiezblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/long-overdue-post-teach-your-dog-5.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Long overdue post: Teach your dog 5 commands in 30 days&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture is great! Ace still looks like he&#8217;s about to spring up, but at least he&#8217;s looking at you.</p>
<p>Biggie-Zs last blog post..<a href="http://biggiezblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/long-overdue-post-teach-your-dog-5.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fbiggiezblog.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F08%2Flong-overdue-post-teach-your-dog-5.html','Long+overdue+post%3A+Teach+your+dog+5+commands+in+30+days')" rel="nofollow">Long overdue post: Teach your dog 5 commands in 30 days</a></p>
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		<title>By: Apryl DeLancey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apryl DeLancey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your ideas are great!  Ace will be a mellow dude one day!

Apryl DeLanceys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WomenLikeSports/~3/382278426/wild-world-of-wednesday-fantasy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wild World of Wednesday – Fantasy Football Edition&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your ideas are great!  Ace will be a mellow dude one day!</p>
<p>Apryl DeLanceys last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WomenLikeSports/~3/382278426/wild-world-of-wednesday-fantasy.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2F%7Er%2FWomenLikeSports%2F%7E3%2F382278426%2Fwild-world-of-wednesday-fantasy.html','Wild+World+of+Wednesday+%E2%80%93+Fantasy+Football+Edition')" rel="nofollow">Wild World of Wednesday – Fantasy Football Edition</a></p>
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