10 responses to “Teaching a dog to stay – should I let the dog move around at all?”

  1. Nancy

    I agree, a person needs to figure out what stay means for them. My two dogs both know “stay” differently. That’s because we have had different expectations for them. My golden will stay until released (well, most of the time) because that’s what we taught her. My springer not so much. We haven’t been as strict with her. I think this is mostly because our golden had more formal obedience training. It’s all about expectations and following through. You’re exactly right on that.

  2. Cat

    I’m a rebel, I don’t teach stay. {gasp} Let me explain… ;-)

    When I tell Hershey to sit, that means sit until I say otherwise. Same with down. Stay is redundant and unnecessary at that point.

    If she’s full of energy, she’ll swivel her sit (if I walk far enough away that she can’t contort her neck to see me). If she’s post exercise, she’ll usually lose the swivel. I’m not strict with the swivel, but scooting is a no-no. Now that she’s getting older/slightly mellower, we’re working on reducing some of the antsy behavior. If I’m planning on keeping her in position for en extended period of time though, I’ll put her into a down. She does a “sphinx” down so she’s usually more stationary in that position. When down, she can “head” (put her chin on the ground), sniff the ground she can reach, lick her paws…all that movement is permissible. If she’s antsy, she’ll sometimes bring herself back to a sit, which gets corrected. If she’s REALLY antsy, she’ll roll over…thinking that’s what I want to see next. If she’s REALLY, REALLY antsy, she’ll do a 360 spin on her butt. Funniest thing you’ve ever seen, but I digress. ;-)

    I do use “wait” for times when she’s already in the position I want but I’d like her to stay in the general vicinity. For example, right now she’s sitting at the bedroom door (boundary trained not to enter). I get up to go to the kitchen but I don’t want her to follow. I tell her wait which means she can stay sitting, she can lay down, she can stand, or she can play with the toy next to her, so long as she stays in front of the bedroom door.

    I started teaching stay when she was a puppy, then I read something (completely forget where) outlining the redundancy theory and it made sense to me so here we are.

  3. Jessi

    Charlie stays when I tell him to sit or lay down, but he also knows when I say stay he can either stand, sit or lie down (I don’t care which as long as he stays in the same spot) and he isn’t allowed to shift to look at me.

  4. Jennifer

    I recommend your site to others now! I have a friend at work that has had the best/worst time training her rescue, I mentioned your blog to her so I hope she has a chance to learn a few things or share her stories.

    Diesel knows the command “blieb” since he learned most of his commands in German. What cracks me up is that he is really good at it … most of the time! I really do think he might be smarter than we know. My father-in-law likes to make him lay down, “platz,” and then places treats in front of him. Diesel is usually supposed to wait until he’s released but usually Ken forgets and either D is left there with a big puddle of drool beneath his chin or he says to heck with it and just eats the treats after a few minutes.

    He’s also pretty good about staying in the yard without having to be watched at every second, but he knows it when you aren’t paying attention, he’ll use it as his time to sneak away and go exploring.

    Thanks for a good read!
    Jennifer
    Diesel Stomping

  5. Brian

    I like how short and sweet your tutorial was. Definitely a good read.
    I have 3 dogs and they all “stay” differently. My German Shepherd, Joker when asked to stay will stay untill released whether it’s 5 minutes or 25 minutes, while my Boxer, Wyatt doesn’t quite have that attention span(not even close, but he is only 11 months). My Dogue De Bordeaux is somewhere in between, though he is the the one that really wants to please me the most. He gets so excited when he does something good. When I catch Wyatt swiveling around while “staying” he definitely gets a “wrong”, the other 2 I don’t have to worry about. My other problem with Wyatt, that I don’t have with the other 2, is when I put distance between us or I am out of site. He just can’t help himself, he has to move.
    It seems like you have some good followers, so that means you have some great info to share. Thanks again!

    Brian

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