25 responses to “Training an anxious dog too quickly”

  1. Maggie

    Great post! My Lucas is a very fearful dog. I think the trick is to be more patient than he is scared! In the beginning I constantly pushed him too far, and he let me know every single time. Once I figured out just how slowly we had to work, we both started to improve. It took a year to get him to be able to walk around our neighborhood. Four years later (just last month!) he went on a group walk with other people and dogs in a neighborhood he’s never been in before… and it took every single day over the last four years of building his confidence to get him there. Although, of course, we’re not “there” yet because the day after the group walk he had a freak out over something entirely new. Really, I think with a fearful dog, it’s all about letting patience prevail over fear!

  2. Jessi

    I think Cosmo would be an excellent dog for my Grandparents, unfortunatly they refuse to get so much as a fish even though they love Charlie and constantly ask me to bring him over.

    I think it’s interesting that most people push their dogs too far I’m finding out my problem is the opposite. When Charlie’s trainer came I found out I was definatly not moving far enough fast enough. I was working on his handstand and he’d been going on the books for quite a while and when the trainer came she told me he was ready to go against the wall alone and I definatly did not believe her. Guess who was right… Not me.

    I also find that when I’m working with Charlie he can stay focused a lot longer then me. I try to do 15 minute training sessions and he doesn’t get frustrated very often or distracted but I find myself thinking “Oh we should work on this too!” or “Oh let’s just go rollerblading.” Charlie just wants to keep going so he can get his treat.

    “Now that I’ve lived with Cosmo for a few months, I can see why people with reactive/aggressive or fearful dogs find it easier to just keep the dogs away from other dogs or away from new people.”

    That is how I felt for the first year we had Charlie. I didn’t have any motivation to help him. I figured if the doorbell rang I’d just put him in a room and close the door, or if my mother had someone coming over i’d just go for a long walk with Charlie. Then I began to realize that Charlie has potentially 10 more years of life on this earth and it’s going to be a long and difficult for me and I felt bad that I wasn’t trying to help Charlie reach his potential. So I started trying and he is already doing better, and I think he has a lot more to do.

  3. Jess @InStyleDog

    This is good to keep in mind. The examples of specific vs non-specific were very helpful. I’ve been around dogs my whole life and consider myself to be pretty good with them, but teaching tricks/commands is always a little different depending on the dog. My parents’ dogs were “fast learners” (in that they could learn commands from pretty broad standards).

    I’ve been frustrated lately with one of my boyfriend’s dogs who doesn’t seem to be able to remember that when somebody comes in the door, the proper reaction is to wait to be petted – not to run at them at top speed, then take a flying leap at them. I think we need to break our training down a little more from our current “We will teach him to sit and wait in the family room when somebody comes in the door.” That seems pretty obvious now, but I don’t think I would have figured it out myself anytime soon so thanks for this!!

  4. Nancy

    Very informative post as usual. I really enjoyed the “towel story.” I think you are absolutely right about not expecting too much right off the bat. It’s really all about patience, patience and more patience. The trouble is, so many dog owners are short on time and patience, but still have high expectations. No wonder there are so many problems!

  5. Randi

    Do you use a clicker? Just curious. Not sure it would help, but if he associated that with doing a good job/treats maybe it would help as a reinforcer for him even without the treat. Maybe you could get an extra step in your stay with a click between treats to remind him he’s doing it right. I did some clicker training but I really was not coordinated enough to manage leash, clicker and treats at once while they learned. And with Maisy and Truman, if the click wasn’t followed by a treat, they left their stay or whatever we were working on to look for the treat :) They didn’t give a hoot about a click.

  6. Kristine

    This is why I love free shaping behaviours so much. It works so well for increasing a dog’s confidence. When they learn they get rewards for trying new things and offering new behaviours, it’s so exciting. You can almost see the light bulb turn on over their heads. The key is to start slow, keep the sessions short, and always end on a high note. The best advice I’ve received lately is: when you hear that voice at the back of your head saying “one more time!”, stop!

    Thanks for all this great advice. Training is a complicated thing. It takes a lot of practice to get it right. The human brain has a tendency to rush through things for sure. Good luck helping Cosmo find his home!

  7. John Cardero

    We’ve tried training our dog Max for years using a variety of methods. I hope by using some of the tricks you wrote about that we can make some head way.

  8. Jodi

    This was a great post. I have been struggling with Delilah trying to get her to stay. She is generally a 30 second or less dog.

    Sampson is like your Ace, he will stay no matter what. But Delilah will not.

    Unfortunately most of the training classes I have been to don’t teach people to train the way you have just outlined. I think I am going back to beginning with Delilah and seeing how that will work.

    Thanks so much for this; I needed to hear it.

  9. Jennifer

    My dog Diesel is a perfect example of a dog that responds to positive reinforcement over the negative. My boyfriend’s brother is actually the one who came home with Diesel after the family dog had passed. He began teaching Diesel basic obedience and then started taking him for schutzen training. When trying to teach him to fetch, one of the trainers began getting very aggressive with him. Yanking on his choke chain everything he dropped the ball short. Diesel eventually shut down and stopped listening to the trainer or his brother. His brother gave up on him and went out and adopted two more shepherds that were already partially done with their schutzen training. My boyfriend had felt terrible that Diesel was basically being ignored now, and essentially rescued him. He moved in with me shortly after that and brought Diesel along and now I can’t imagine my life without him! He is such a lover! We have been able to reverse all of the negative training and now he is the most obedient dog I know. He still has his slip ups now and again, but I know I can count on him when it matters the most.

  10. Meagan

    Interesting post! I adopted an Eskimo dog two years ago. He was about a year old and afraid of everything–pine cones, trash can lids, really, everything. It took two weeks to get him to climb down a set of stairs. And, as Eskies tend to do, he barked at everything, too. Even when he could see what it was, like me closing a cabinet door–crazy barking fit. Combined with almost inexhaustible energy (he can follow me on my bike at 15mph for 45 minutes and still have energy until his bedtime), he’s been a lot of work.

    Well, two years later, he’s a great dog. Knows his commands, somehow learned “roll over” when I wasn’t looking, stays close. But, as per his breeding, he thinks he’s a mighty watch dog, but has no aggression whatsoever. Which is nice at times. I think it has to do with his love affair with the routine. He wakes up at 8:04. He goes to sleep at 9:30. Every day. And he tends to get frustrated easily, too, especially when strangers invade his territory–if he can see, hear, or touch someone, he’s going to bark at them. And what I’ve learned, but what’s very, very difficult to remember sometimes, is that it’s all about positive re-enforcement with Wyatt. Otherwise he folds his ears and runs under the bed.

    So I got Wyatt a Thundershirt, thinking that might help. We got it today. So far, instead of lessening his anxiety (he still barked at distantly-barking dogs), it’s as though I lobotomized him. Despite all the positivity I could muster regarding the shirt, he hid under my chair and wouldn’t come out. Barked at the neighborhood from there. Growled at the traffic from there. When I finally got him out, he stood stock-still. Nothing weird about the fit of the shirt, nothing pinching or chafing.

    I just think he felt stupid. Insulted. Vanity?

    I’ll try it a bit more, but I think his rather strong personality might win on this one. Any thoughts?

    1. Meagan

      I’ll add to that — as soon as Wyatt leaves his territory, which is basically the house or the car, he’s confident (almost comically so) and friendly. Never barks at anyone. He’s the showboat of the dog park. And people tell me he’s much more relaxed at home once I leave. Strong guard dog instincts, but hard to train.

  11. Amber

    This was very helpful,as far as training a dog goes. ^-^;
    I have a 4-year-young lab/pit bull mix,she is the sweetest thing ever and i do love her a lot! But she has this thing where i tell her to sit/stay/lay down [she already knows these,as i have taught them to her] but she will ignore me completely and then pull her ears back and wag her tail,then bump into my legs..
    Any idea what i can do for this? How can i make her listen to me,without getting frustrated? And i don’t have money for obedience classes.

  12. Amanda

    Hi Lindsay,

    I had to comment after reading your response about about how Ace will sort of “shut down” when he wears his vest. It reminds me of a situation with Coco, a chocolate lab that I dogsit on occasion.

    Coco is about two years old and she tends to pull on her leash. Her owners recently got her an easy walk harness and it is a total 180, to the extent that we don’t know if it’s positive or not. She does not want to wear it, and when you get it on, her energy level just plummets. Instead of pulling ahead she walks fully behind you. You aren’t exactly dragging her but she is going just a little slower than you are. I’m wondering what is your take on this; is this behavior better than the pulling? Would you stick with the harness?

    I don’t visit Coco that often but I’m spending next weekend at her house and so I’m trying to decide if I will use the harness or not. My inclination is to keep using it, but her owners are especially hesitant about it.

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