10 Reasons Not to Buy Fake Dog Grass Pads

Fake indoor grass pads for dogs

Fake indoor grass pads and puppy pee pads are products designed as indoor bathrooms for dogs.

I am not a fan of these products because I’ve just seen too many problems where the pads make dogs even more confused. The dogs end up peeing next to the pads or on small rugs and pillows that resemble a pad.

Despite my obvious bias, I understand these products are helpful for potty training some puppies and of course they can be helpful for people with physical disabilities or for certain dogs with disabilities. I understand some people NEED to use pee pads or fake grass for dogs if they work long hours and have limited options for dog care. I get it.

That being said, I personally am not a fan of using any type of indoor bathroom for dogs in general. For the average dog, I really recommend you start potty training your puppy OUTSIDE immediately.

Here’s why:

Reasons not to use fake grass or pee pads for dogs

1. Training a dog to use pee pads won’t be as easy as it sounds.

In my experience, the dog owners who buy pee pads buy the product because they think their dogs can’t “hold it” when really the dog is not potty trained. So instead of training the dog to go potty outside, they plop down some pads on the ground. What this does is confuse the dog even further.

If you do decide to use indoor pee pads, it’s important to take a couple of weeks to properly train your dog to use the pads.

This involves taking the dog to the pad multiple times per day (on a leash) and rewarding them for using the pad. It also means you should leave your dog in a crate or small gated area when you can’t supervise so she doesn’t sneak off and have accidents.

Unfortunately, I see a lot of dog owners who think they can just plop some pads on the ground and the dogs will know what to do. Do you know how many times I’ve heard “She just doesn’t get it!” That’s because you have to teach her!

Fake grass pads for dogs

2. The dog will get walked less.

Most dogs don’t get walked enough already. Yes, I do understand the need for these products. I do. However, I also know people use the pee pads as an excuse not to head outside and walk their dogs.

It’s bad enough that so many small dogs get nothing more than a five-minute walk to relieve themselves. Now some are lucky if they get outside at all.

3. Owners of small dogs have enough problems with housebreaking.

We all know at least one person who owns a Yorkie, Maltese, Chihuahua or Pomeranian that pees in the house. I’m not talking about old dogs that can’t hold it. I’m talking about 2-year-old dogs that still aren’t potty trained.

If the owner can’t train her dog to go to the bathroom outside (one of the easiest things to teach a dog), how will she train her dog to pee on fake grass? This will only encourage the dog to pee on carpet, rugs, couches and mattresses. I am a professional pet sitter and I see examples of this every week.

See my post: How to train my dog to use pee pads.

4. People don’t change the pad or clean the grass often enough.

One of the top problems I see is dog owners leave the pads out too long and the dog doesn’t want to step on a used pad. So what does he do? He pees next to the pad. If you decide to use puppy potty pads or indoor fake grass, you’ll have more success if you can keep the area clean for your dog.

5. Pee pads for dogs won’t take away all issues.

The average housebroken dog can go five or six hours without a potty break (or longer). If you are leaving your dog home for shorter periods and she is having accidents, there might be a bigger issue than her not being able to hold it. She could have a bladder infection or anxiety or she truly is not potty trained.

If you have recently moved, she might not understand where she can and can’t go to the bathroom. Purchasing indoor fake grass is unlikely to solve these problems.

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6. Some dogs eat their own poop.

Let’s face it, many of them do. I think this would be too tempting for a lot of dogs. Some dogs will eat their poop and their owners won’t even know it because they’re not home!

7. What about dogs that lift their legs?

Are you going to buy him a few fake trees and bushes to go along with that grass? Or maybe he’ll just pee on the wall?

8. There are other options than pee pads if you work long hours.

Dogs shouldn’t be left alone for too long regularly if we can avoid it. Many people who work long shifts have dogs, but they come home during their breaks, take their dogs to daycare or hire a dog walker or pet sitter or ask a friend to help. Dogs are pack animals and need interaction and exercise. Leaving a dog home for 12 hours or more several days a week is generally not fair to the dog.

Yes, there are exceptions. Some senior dogs will gladly sleep all day and perhaps a pee pad is a good solution. I also understand sometimes you simply don’t have options for dog care due to financial reasons or aggression and perhaps pee pads are your best choice.

Reasons not to buy fake grass pads for dogs

9. Fake grass pads for dogs are not the same as a litter box.

Cats cover up after themselves. Dogs won’t be covering up anything! They’ll probably step right in it. Or maybe they’ll do that thing where they kick their back legs and fling some poop onto your carpet! My dog Ace has an annoying habit of walking while he poops! If I bought fake grass pads for him, he would probably walk right off the edge!

See my post: My dog pees right next to the potty pad!

10. Dogs are not as sanitary as cats.

Cats are naturally clean animals. Dogs are not. Dogs are careless. They roll in things and they eat garbage, dead animals and poop. And they’d generally prefer to go to the bathroom outside, away from their “den” area.

 

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What’s your opinion on fake indoor grass for dogs?

As you can see, I’m totally opinionated on this. I know that. I do understand these types of products are great for the right dogs. If you use pee pads for your dogs, let us know how they’ve helped you in the comments.

For more information, check out my post on 10 reasons to buy fake indoor grass for dogs.

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351 thoughts on “10 Reasons Not to Buy Fake Dog Grass Pads”

  1. I’m with you all the way on this one. I don’t know how a dog can determine that the fake grass is ok but the carpet isn’t. They naturally like going outside on real grass or ground and smell seems to be a big part of what attracts them to a specific spot. When we adopted Rosie (a 3 yr old chihuahua) I have a feeling that her lack of housetraining may have been why she was roaming the streets when found by the dog catcher – in other words someone just dumped her because they couldn’t teach her to not go in the house. She didn’t know how to tell us she needed to go out, and would sneak down the basement and go on a throw rug. We worked with her as if she was a puppy just learning the whole housebreaking thing. It took some time, patience and regularly taking her out and rewarding her for going, but she soon learned what we wanted her to do. When you adopt a dog you have to commit yourself to their care and that includes working on any problems they may have. The rewards are wonderful having a healthy, happy and stable dog.

    1. I completely agree. The walks are your bonding time for you and your dog as well as it lets them learn new smells and engage with nature and all sorts of sounds. My only dilema is, I live in the Chicago land area and im sure everyone knows the horrific winters we can have. I have a 5 month old mix. Chihuahua, Yorki, and Yorkshire terrier. She already doesnt like the cool mornings or god forbid a few drops of rain. Im nervous for the upcoming months with the snow/sleet/temperatures. I have a balcony on the ground level, which would be a perfect place for the fake grass box. Ive already bought her a heavy coat and booties to help with this, but i know its going to become a problem. Whats your take on this?

    2. My pom 8 years and my yorky 6 months always go outside to potty but the subzero windchills keep the pom pottying on my floor and I do not want the yorky to backslide. Also, we have a 1 pound yorky 7 weeks andnot sure to take her outside to potty. Any suggestions on these issues would be greatly appreciated

      1. Lindsay Stordahl

        I personally would take them outside. I know the cold makes it challenging. I used to live in North Dakota and my neighbors had a dachshund puppy. They actually just laid a pee pad out in the snow for her and she would pee on that outside. It worked because that wasn’t so cold on her feet and she could concentrate and go quickly. Just a thought.

    1. Right now I’m looking at these as a short term option for a new pup who is too small to hold for 4 hours… chiweenie who seems to get what they are for… but she doesn’t like it lol . She goes right away when we go outside but she is just too young to hold it until my lunch break.

  2. Honestly – if people think buying this is an alternative to taking their dog outside, I wonder about them!!

    I don’t have a dog at least partially because I know it would spend long hours alone, and that is not fair! I won’t have a dog until I know I can give it the time and attention it deserves!!

    Fake grass seems like a very convenient excuse to be lazy to me!

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  3. I have never encountered the fake grass in a home. I do run across lots of people who are using or want to use litter boxes or puppy pads which is basically the same concept as indoor grass. 100% of the time I encourage them to never do that. So many problems are created when a dog is encouraged to go to the bathroom indoors.

  4. I actually found one colleague that had a decent excuse for using this. She is a freelancer who stays at home and leaves the house to do errands throughout the day and can’t always take the dog. She has this out on her balcony since she lives in a loft that is several stories up. In her view, it gives the dog the option to always have the opportunity to go if she isn’t home for two hours. Otherwise, the dog is always with her or going on walks. That is the best excuse I have found. I didn’t ask her how she cleans it since I didn’t want to know.

  5. You know, I never even considered something like this. I also want to say that some dogs are more difficult to house break than others. I have a friend with a pug who has given up. She just leaves papers in one spot. I think the dog has a surface preference for papers. I do wonder how often her whelping box was cleaned as a puppy.

    Some does just will not go on different surfaces. Concrete is evil as far as my Qay is concerned. Qor doesn’t care.

  6. I agree, although I don’t think that people are necessarily lazy because they try to potty train their dog with fake grass. I think some people buy them out of desperation due to either not knowing how to properly potty train their dog or they just have a tough case on their hands. You make some very valid points that I agree with. Especially number 9. “The dog will get walked less.” I take my dog for a walk every night after dinner, even during the winter months.

  7. Also, two more points: I don’t see the difference between using fake grass and piddle pads. In fact, piddle pads are more sanitary because you throw them away after they get soiled.

    But using indoor pads + outdoor walking can make for some difficult housetraining anyway because if you start the dog on litter/pads/fake grass, the dog is going to know that it’s OK to potty inside. It can be confusing and take a lot longer to then teach the dog that it shouldn’t go inside any more. And forget about bringing the dog places, any mat or rug would then be fair game.

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  8. Babe. I’m absolutely caking myself. My God, what will Americans think of inventing next? If I said to anyone in Australia that I was training my dog to pee inside, they would either be laughing their head off, think I was filthy or just plain lazy.

    I know it goes against all you guys, but I would put carpet in the same catagory as crates & prong collars. We don’t use them and see no point to them. Now before you all howl me down, take into account that unless you order one from the city, you can’t even buy them here. They are just unheard of, so it’s probably a cultural thing.

  9. Lindsay Stordahl

    Most people don’t use prong collars here either. But I’d say at least half of dog owners in the U.S. use crates. You’re right, you don’t need either. I know I told you to get a crate for Chels when she was a pup. Although I do believe it would’ve saved you at least one mattress and some other furniture, your dogs are obviously just fine without crates.

  10. I agree with your reasons to not buy indoor grass for your pets. It would be stupid and as noted above lazy for a person to allow their dogs to go to the bathroom in the house on any surface. However, I started researching grass boxes for my balcony (not for indoor use!) for my dogs to use because the pet owners in my condo complex are lazy and don’t pick up after their dogs. I have one dog who was constantly getting sick with major illnesses. I spent about $4,000 in hospital stays, vet appointments and medication to figure out what the problem was. Come to find out, due to inconsiderate pet owners in my neighborhood not picking up after their dogs, Roxy (my Boston Terrier) was getting intestinal infections by the bacteria found in the feces left on the ground by other dogs. There are dog stations set up all throughout our complex that tenants still (out of laziness) do not use. Out of frustration and the fear of loosing my dog to another illness, I have come to the conclusion that using a “dog box” may be the best way to keep my dogs healthy and avoid ruining more of my carpet and shoes by tracking dog crap throughout my home and car. My dogs get walked every day and have plenty of room to run around the house to play and exercise so I think using a dog box for this situation would be understandable.

  11. I have two Chihuahuas. My dogs use indoor grass. They also go for walks every single day. They do not step and track their pee everywhere because the grass is designed for the pee to flow right through to the tray/litter below. They did track pee when using puppy pads.

    I have found the grass to be much cleaner and more evironmentally sound than pads, which I have used in the past. My dogs never make a mistake, confusing the grass with rugs, etc. (and small dogs are notorious for being tough to housebreak!). But they are housebroken because I trained them well, watched them like a hawk and never allowed them to think other areas of the house were fair game (my girl was from a puppy mill and was an adult when I got her, but she learned fast).

    They will go all the way downstairs and seek the grass out when they need to go.

    It has been ideal for my female who sometimes gets UTIs – and needs to pee frequently. And they are good for those early rainy or snowy mornings when you want to sleep in just a bit! 😉 (living in a condo, this has worked well for us).

    I wash it once a week – and it does not stink (though the fake grass bits shed, which is a bit annoying!). Plus, they still go outside when they are out there. So, I am a recent convert and fan.

    It does not – nor should it ever replace real walks/socialization outside, etc., but it has sure come in handy at our place!

    Having said that, my dogs are 4 pounds. So what they “do” and “doo” I should say, is probably less than your average cat!

    1. Will you tell me how you trained them to do this? I have a puppy that is almost fully trained to potty outside and he is not getting the concept of now going on a small square fake grass patch. Any tips?

      1. Lindsay Stordahl

        Train them the same way you would train a dog to go to the bathroom in a certain area outside. Keep them on a strict schedule. Take them right where you want them to go. And give lots of praise and a treat for going in the right spot! If they have an accident, just ignore and get them to the correct place sooner the next time.

  12. Lindsay Stordahl

    Thanks for your comments Natalie. I am glad the indoor grass works for you and your dogs.

  13. I would’ve never considered indoor grass products until now. We live in an area that … while beautiful … has the occasional gator in the water. We feel safe during the day (although we always stay far from the water and we check under cars as we’re walking) but dusk & nighttime are when gators feed, so I don’t feel very comfortable walking them then. Plus the short fence restrictions make it easy for a gator to climb the fence. So, for me personally a combo of indoor grass at night and the great outdoors during the day would be ideal.

  14. The way I see it. Cats get to go in a bucket of fake dirt, so dogs (probably pertains more to the smaller breeds) should be able to go on a strip of fake grass on top of a bucket of fake dirt. Lol, simple logic to me, but not very simple to execute.

  15. Lindsay Stordahl

    Hmm, I guess that’s a good point. But cats are at least more sanitary and will cover up after. My dog walks while he poops and would not be able to keep it in a small area!

  16. Lindsay Stordahl

    Thank you for sharing your side. Are you able to completely housebreak the dog after training it to use the potty pad? Does the dog eventually only go to the bathroom outside or do you continue using the pads for the dog’s life?

  17. I disagree for some people not ALL. I have a puppy here who I researched thouroughly to find a good apartment dog. We live in a highrise, and it’s not always possible for us to get her out in time. I am not lazy at all, We use pads right now, on our large balcony but she has been eating them which I can’t imagine is good for her. I am contemplating a fake grass pad because of that, and she prefers to poop in the house (she’s only 10 weeks old right now). It’s not LAZY to train that way when you live in a high rise or apartment building. The balcony does not supplement in any way taking her out for walks 2-3 times daily, nor does it effect her in anyway. I am a clean neat freak who cleans up her messes instantly after she is done. To say this makes people LAZY is judgemental. I wouldn’t use this method if we owned a home, but we don’t yet. Once we do she will have a fenced yard to do her buisness. She gets more exercise then her 7lb’s needs. Whats wrong with people here is making snap decisions on others choices without knowing the reasons. I come from a family where we bred/showed dogs and always had nothing but the best for them. They had a yard to roam, my dog doesn’t yet. There is NOTHING ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING WRONG WITH TRAINING YOUR DOG THIS WAY IF YOU HAVE NO OTHER MEANS. If you want to come on over and try to catch a 10 week old puppy in the act and hop on the elevator to got 16 stories down and pray to god she doesn’t pee/poop on the elevator.

    It seems maybe YOU ARE LAZY for spending your time judging others on something that is quite frankly NONE OF YOUR BUISNESS!

  18. Lindsay Stordahl

    The problem is, you are using the pads to train her to go indoors. You are not using them as a step to eventually train her to go outdoors. If you don’t mind having a little dog going to the bathroom indoors, then by all means, go for it.

  19. hi, I am considering a potty pad for my dog,, we have a boston terrior who goes outside beautifully and just got an adorable lil yorkie poo…She is very picky about wet cold grass. I am not using it to train her to go inside I”m going to place in on the porch and take her out there it won’t be wet and cold. Also when the weather is nice she will go out with her big sister. I will however get two of them and place one inside when we are not home. My husband has cancer and is taking chemo and when I am not home he is not able to let her out as often as puppies need to to… HOpe it works for us..

    1. Really?! Her husband has CANCER and your reply is “I hope she doesn’t learn bad habits”? I no longer can take anything you say seriously and this whole article went from informative to judgmental in one comment. You’re talking about dogs relieving themselves, not performing life saving surgery, get a grip and find your humanity.

  20. We have had two dachshunds, and both had trouble being potty trained, but both absolutely refused to go potty outside during a Minnesota winter. I don’t think I’d want to drag my bottom through the snow at -20 degrees. We are considering the fake grass because the pee pads get pretty pricey after a while. He goes outside during warmer months with no problems, but when it comes to bad weather he holds it untill you give up and let him in, and if you’ve ever lived in Minnesota you know you can’t always spend a lot of time outside in those below 0 temps. I agree with E. You should be more concerned that the dog is being loved and cared for than whether or not it goes potty inside or out.

  21. Our five-month-old pug uses her rascal litter box (has fake grass) box religiously. And, our reasons are far from lazy.

    We live on the 16th floor, so we really needed a solution to help potty train her. And, now she is cross-trained to go outside as well, but there is no way we are getting rid of the box! And for all the naysayers, I kid you not., she does not go anywhere inside but the box!

    Luckily, she peed in the grass the first time we introduced her to it (which was after a long drive from the breeder’s home). She still gets lots of outside action and she gets a 1- to 2-mile walk every day. She just has the option to do her business inside as well as outside.

    I heard her get up this morning at 5 a.m. and walk herself down the hall to the box (she had a poo) and came back to bed. How great is it that are pup can relieve herself?

    She very, very rarely had accidents while training because we always moved the box to where she was. Honestly, my husband and I couldn’t imagine life without the box. My only wish was that it was a little bigger as she is getting bigger, and it is harder for her to do her circles before she poops.

    Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. And, don’t expect it to be an effortless ordeal. We constantly treat her for going potty in it. So much so that she automatically uses it when we are cooking so that she can get some food. Not the best time to tend to a dump, but I can’t be mad at her.

  22. I’m just posting in response to the people who are saying that this is for people too lazy to let their dogs out. I just wanted to say some dogs have thinner hair or are like my Chinese cresteds that have no hair at all! I live in Pennsylvania, and my two dogs can’t go out in the winter, so we really do need this for the safty of our dogs, not because we’re lazy!

  23. Oh, one more thing about sanitation. I check their box every time I see them head down to the basement to use it. I clean the poo up with toilet paper and flush it, and I have a big spray bottle with soapy water or vinegar water (it helps kill bacteria and actually takes care of smell once the vinegar smell goes away in like an hour or less) that I use to spray the grass to rinse any pee or poo off the grass and into the tray below. Then you can pull out the tray and give it a good bleaching, which I do about every other day.

  24. Lindsay Stordahl

    Glad to hear you are so good about cleaning their box. Sounds like this system works great for you and your dogs.

  25. My dog is an angel when I’m around, but when I leave to work it’s like he forgets where he is supposed to go. I usually work for six- to eight-hour shifts, just like a normal person. I would even come home during lunch to take him out, but guess what? He already went on the carpet. I take him out before work and always after. Maybe this grass patch will work for me. I think if he likes the texture, he’ll start to use it. I don’t know. I’m very frustrated.

  26. Lindsay Stordahl

    You could also try kenneling the dog whenever you are gone. Think of it as a privelidge to be left loose in the house. Leave the dog in a kennel and then slowly begin to leave him loose. Start with ten mins. Then 30 mins, and build up to a few hours and then the full day.

    I would try temporarily kenneling the dog rather than have to depend on the fake grass forever.

    1. Would you lock your child in a box for hours at a time? Why would you do this for your dog, and why would you recommend this for other pet owners. I love my dog as family and absolutely treat him with the same respect and love that I show my children.

      1. You all sound completely stupid. You have a grass patch becuse you don’t want your animal going on the floors. This entire post is stupid and everyone on here sounds like total fucking retards. Or you all don’t have lives. I own 2 bulldogs and I clean mine daily. Plus I own my own business and my dogs go on walk more then 3 times a day. And they still use their grass box that I made that take up one entire wall. So alll you saying it’s not good probably have stinky houses or stupid dogs who can’t grasp the idea of how animals work. My dogs like laying around in the grass. And it’s real grass. If your dog is chewing or eating it’s own poop it just shows you are bad owners. My vet said if your dog is eating it’s poop you are feeding it the wrong food becuse it’s trying to get it from the smell of its own poop or you are feeding it to many treats. So instead of saying something is wrong how about you do your research and stop being snobby cunts and do some reading about why they were built for animals.

  27. I have a dog who recently suffered a neck vertebrae disc rupture, resulting in near total paralysis (temporary, we hope!). We opted for the surgery and are currently on the recovery road, however it will be a long haul. She is learing to walk again. Actually, she can’t even stand up yet. It’s only been eight days since surgery. Her therapy is going great, but hauling her outside to lie in the wet grass doesn’t do it for her. She will just lie there and hold it until she almost bursts.

    The fake grass works great. after each use, I clean it up, and I can keep in the garage until needed, then put it out back and place her on it until she goes. It’s a Godsend actually, becasue we only have grass in the front yard (the back is all brick), and no way can we leave her out in front for any period of time. All our dogs routinely do their dooties on the bricks (and we clean/wash it down quite often). I am unwilling to just lie her on the brick to go. For one thing, she’ll just lie there in her own pool of urine (same goes for potty pads no matter where I put them). I needed something that the urine can flow thru and keep her clean and dry (it’s far superior to anything else I’ve tried). This is the ticket! Hopefully within a month or so she will have enough function recovered to walk on her own, and this will be a thing of the past. Sure hope so.

  28. Lindsay Stordahl

    Matt, thank you for your comment. I hope your dog gets well soon! I’m glad this product is making life easier for you and your dog.

  29. I really think I’m going to get this product for my two dogs: Lhasa Apso & Shitzu.
    I leave them home from 630am- 6pm from Mon-thur while I’m at my full time job.
    I walk them about 1/2 a mile in the morning, at 6 pm and again at 10 pm at night. Currently the pee pads get used maybe two times a week by them while I’m at work & do tend to trail a bit of urine in the restroom floor I have them in. So I clean my floor immediately when I get home if they’ve relieved themselves while I was gone.
    The grassy things seems so perfect.
    AND I am FAR from Lazy. This is just so that IF they need to pee they go to the bathroom NOT My floor in any other room in the house. Both dogs have NEVER done it in any other place other than the pad, never on any carpet, never on furniture and ONLY on the pad.
    Both dogs were adopted & used the pad as soon as I put it down for them. Plus on evenings when I have to run an errand after work the pad is there JUST IN CASE.
    I don’t like putting them on Kennels as they would have to relieve themselves in there IF THey had to, plus i have no room to put on in. I have a small two bedroom apartment w/ no yard. and an 18 month old child to take care of so, I’m far from lazy.

  30. Wow I was just looking to get some feedback from people and what they thought about these just because my dog is getting older and a little more incontinent than he use to be. I let him out every single time that he wants to go out but sometimes he still urinates on the floor even if I just let him out less than an hour before. It seems that having him use a little grass patch inside would be more sanitary than having him use the carpet. Lindsay you should let this go. It seems as though you have been worried about this for almost two years; this weird obsession with fake dog grass can’t be good for you. I’m not being sarcastic, I’m just thinking that you sound like an animal lover and you should try to focus your efforts on something more worthwhile to help animals. Try joining efforts with the humane society or peta. I’m sure they would love to have some extra help. Take care.

  31. Everything you say is so logical. At the end of the day it’s this simple: if one has to buy their dog fake grass then they shouldn’t own a dog at all.

  32. I don’t understand what all the fuss is about this and why people would actually go so far as to say that someone who teaches their dog to pee/poo indoors on an indoor doggie potty is lazy. People use indoor potties, don’t they? Could you imagine if people still used the outdoors for peeing? Well, I use a toilet, indoors and I’m not lazy. I defacate because my body is cleansing itself, getting rid of what it needs to. Dogs and cats relieve themselves for the very same reason. They don’t relieve themselves because they want to get exercise. They relieve themselves because it’s their natural bodily function to get rid of their waste, just like we do. Going potty outside shouldn’t be the only means of a dog getting their exercise. Going outside for exercise should be fun, last a while, and be for other reasons than just potty time. So, if they are taught to pee indoors on a potty, in the same spot every day, several times a day, and they don’t seem to mind it, I don’t see where the problem lies. As long as the dog gets regular exercise every day, why does it matter if the dog defecates indoors in a potty or outdoors? I personally think it’s healthy for the dog to pee when he needs to pee, just like we do. It’s just as unhealthy to hold pee and poo in a dog as it is for us to.

    And in case you’re wondering, my dog is trained to do both pee indoors on the doggy potty and outdoors in the grass. He only poops outside in the grass 2 times a day, unless he’s ill,only then will he use the potty for poop. I’ve trained him this for 3 reasons–He is a tiny dog that disappears in the snow, it’s unsafe and uncomfortable for him, and he sometimes refuses to venture out in harsh weather; I live in a condo and need to go down several flights of stairs every time he needs to piddle, which is just about every 4 hours (he is healthy and fine, btw); my fiance and I work and can’t always walk him every 4 hrs and I’m not about ready to make him hold his pee for 8hrs. Do you hold your pee for 8 hrs? I know I don’t.

    So, to go back to the comment that we are lazy–it’s actually quite the opposite. It takes time and effort to train a dog to do this cross training. Yes, it is possible to train them to do this, you just need to be patient and consistent with training, and no, not lazy.

  33. I have a small dog and she is unable to get down the back steps so I have a fake grass so she doesnt have accidents she gets embarressed when she does…I can’t take her outside every five minutes.. I say don’t knock it until you try it

  34. Lindsay Stordahl

    I guess I better get some indoor grass for my 65 pound dog. That would go over really well.

    1. you seem to have a great level of negativity toward people that are open to it. What’s the point in asking for their opinion if you don’t care about the opinions unless they’re the same as your own? No, not every dog owner does things the same, that doesn’t mean that they’re wrong. Just because you prefer to not do something a certain way doesn’t mean that you should cast judgment on other people for doing it differently than you.

  35. I think the fake grass is a great idea. I just use it when it is raining mostly. I can’t walk Charley when it’s raining so he knows to go to the porch door and asks to go on the fake grass. I also have a peepee pad for him inside incase he really needs to release. I walk him every day and am not lazy at all about that, I love to walk him.

  36. Look, I just got a pee pee pad for when I am at school or work and other times he rides with me. Or when I am home he knows to ask me to go outside.

  37. I was actually considering this product only because I have a cocker spaniel that has terrible allergies to grass and this makes her hate “going” outside on the grass in spring/summer. Anyone have any suggestions on this topic? She is on allergy medicine, but that only helps a little.

  38. Lindsay Stordahl

    You could try having her go on some rocks or sand outside. It’s easy to train a dog to do this if you have access to an area where this is possible.

  39. I have had a heck of a time trying to train my Shitzu/cockapoo. I used puppy pads, but she didn’t like them. She would sometimes poo on one but that was it. I have laminated flooring which is where she likes to pee. I have a patio that goes right outside and only benefits her if she has to go then. Sometimes she gets it but I woke up this morning to see that she had peed on the hardwood a few times. Then, after taking her outside twice she came back in and pooped on the floor and peed. Yes, she gets walked but hates it, and she can run outside but unless you are with her, she won’t. She is three months old and normally has great behavior. It’s just her bathroom habits that are getting out of hand. Any suggestions? Would this be of help? She does poo in the grass but also on the floor. The difference in texture is so different. It makes no sense. I clean with vinegar and water and that doesn’t deter her.

  40. Lindsay Stordahl

    No I do not suggest the fake indoor grass.

    I suggest you take her outside every hour or so and reward her with her favorite treats immediately when she goes outside (pieces of chicken, hotdogs, etc). Then, when you are gone and at night put her in a kennel. I know you may not want to do this, but think of it as a temporary training tool. Within a few months you will be able to trust her not to go to the bathroom in the house. But you do want to do something right now before it becomes even more of a habit for her. Here is a post I wrote on dog housetraining:

    http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/08/25/dog-housetraining/

    Good luck with your pup and be patient!

  41. Lindsay Stordahl

    Also, cleaning with vinegar and water is meant to get the odor out, but it won’t necessarily deter a dog from going in the same area again.

  42. Thank you for your input. Funny thing is, when I go out which is only for a few hours, she is perfect. She finds a place to sleep and doesn’t come out. Yes, I do believe she doesn’t like to be alone and is afraid of the dark, but she doesn’t bark or play or have any bathroom habits. When I do take her out, first thing in the morning, it’s like she half pees, because she will pee a whole puddle when she comes back in and that’s after walking her. She has free reign to go, but holds it. Then I take her out after she eats or I see her circling and she sometimes goes but mostly goes down the hall and poops near the door in the same place all the time.

    She goes out the other door normally. She then will bark at me, so I’m going to assume she is a little backwards right now with trying to let me know after the fact. But also when I take her out she would rather nip and jump my legs and that is aggravating, so i take a lightweight flyswatter and just wave it beside me so she stays clear. Yes, she knows when I wave it at her that she isn’t to do this but I guess at 3 months she will be a bit hard to train. Patience is what I need. I will continue to do the half to an hour outdoor times and will reward. Thank you.

  43. Lindsay Stordahl

    I recommend keeping her on a leash at all times indoors when you are home so you can keep her right by you at all times and catch her the instant she starts to go to the bathroom indoors, or before she goes. And continue to take her outside every hour when you are home, just for a minute or two and reward her every time she goes where you want her to go.

    Good luck!

  44. To the people who commented that owning dog grass is lazyiness and those people should never own a dog at all — have you ever owned or cared for a dog with a chronic disease requiring daily steroid and chemotherapy drug treatment?

    Our dog is 6 years old and has a chronic condition requiring daily steroids and sometimes chemotherapy drug treatment. NO need to put her down, the disorder can be treated and she lives well.

    Laziness? Shouldn’t own a dog? The resulting steroid treatment means my dog drinks enormous amounts of water and pees a ton. Taking her out every 2 hours doesn’t work all the time– because when she needs to go, she needs to go. We get up every couple hours to let her out at night, but she stills needs to go.

    This fake grass has been a lifesaver, while we work as well. She can pee during the day and is NOT left outside in the elements, chained, fenced, etc. She is not stuck in a garage. She lives in the home.

    Laziness? Now that she is under treatment and feeling better, she is back to running, as she is part working dog, which we do with her 2-3 times a day.

    Laziness is throwing your dogs in the backyard to do their business and never walking them. Laziness is forgetting your dog exists and never playing with them. Laziness is not caring for your dog properly or not getting them medical attention as necessary. Laziness is putting a dog down when the condition is treatable, because well “you don’t want to deal with all the extra things one needs to do.” That is laziness.

    Fake grass is an answer to owners with dogs that have medical needs.

    To the person that claimed “we shouldn’t own a dog because we own fake grass” — would you spend almost $10,000 on your dog to find a cure, would you get up every 2 hours, would you prepare special foods, buy expensive drugs, run 2-3 times a day with your dog, etc. etc…..

    …we SHOULD own a dog because we care and we treat our dog better than most people “without fake grass”.

    ..

  45. I’m very sorry to hear what your dog has gone through. I’m glad to hear you are so dedicated to her and that she is doing better. I appreciate your comment.

    I can only speak for myself, but when I say indoor grass for dogs is lazy, I am not referring to senior dogs with bladder control issues or any dog that has a medical issue. I’m referring to the average lazy person who doesn’t even bother taking the dog outside, let alone on a walk. I had a 7-year-old golden retriever with an immune system disease, and if we did not carry her outside to go to the bathroom and hold her up, she had no choice but to go on the floor exactly where she was lying. Indoor grass could have been an option for us, especially if we didn’t have fairly easy access to outdoor grass.

    Thanks again for your comment, and I hope your dog continues to do better.

  46. I have to use piddle pads and am trying to teach my pup to use the fake grass. The main reason is that I’m visually impaired and mostly wheelchair bound. This means that I can’t walk more than maybe thirty steps before I collapse in pain. I do take my dog for walks, but I break it up into little chunks throughout the day. She gets about an hour total of walking exercise, and always, always is in her crate at night. I’m not lazy at all, I just have a legit reason for using the indoor solutions. I must say, it took long enough to get the little one to use the pad, but once she figured out what it was for she’s using it now.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I don’t hold it against you at all for using the pads or fake grass. Sounds like the perfect way to go for you and your dog.

  47. I don’t agree that fake grass means that the owner is lazy. It offers a great substitute in the event that the dog can’t be taken out in time to go because they are too busy caring for their children… Not everyone with piddle pads or grass patches is lazy and ignores their dogs. I am a stay at home mother and we have a small dog, but I can’t always get him out in time and it’s good for him to have a safe place to go when that happens.

  48. It is hard for people that own animals to not be defensive when you ignorantly accuse good pet owners of being lazy and bad dog mommies and daddies. The accusation was to the general public, not specific hypothetical circumstances. Perhaps being more specific and exercising some netiquette would prevent readers from feeling as if they need to defend themselves from someone that seems to think they know everything.

  49. if you do not believe in the potty patch you obviously have never had a use for it. I, myself own a three year old pom-shi tzu. She is fully house trained but in the winter or rainy weather she refuses to go outside. Lazy is not the right word for this situation. No other choice is the right phrase for my situation. My dog knows how to ask to go outside but when conditions aren’t absolutely perfect she dawdles and dawdles and dawdles. I have a two year old little boy and i simply cannot wait a half an hour outside for her to decide she isnt going to go anyways. Every day I deal with my child reaching into his diaper and pulling out poop as well as my dog asking to go out several times only to go on my carpet. If you think this is something i want in my life you are sadly mistaken. What i would like is a happy medium and the potty patch may be my last resort. I have been very focused on this issue and ‘lazy’ is certainly not who i am.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I am glad that the potty patch works for your situation. You absolutely need to put the safety of your child first.

      I’m glad to hear that you have a potty trained dog, although my definition of a potty trained dog is a dog that will not go to the bathroom in the house even if it’s cold outside. And from my experience, if someone has to defend that she is not lazy, she is usually lazy.

  50. Every reason you listed is based off of your opinion. You state no legit facts as to why the fake grass wouldn’t work. I work from 8 to 4 or 5 Monday through Friday, and I don’t have the time to take my dog to the bathroom as much as I should. I have a fake grass pad, and I put it on the balcony of my apartment, and when I get home from work and I’m tired and don’t feel like taking my dog down the stairs and to the grass area I simply open my sliding door, let him go the the bathroom, and then bring him back in.

    It’s much moor convenient then taking him downstairs. And when I do take my dog downstairs, he will stand around and stiff out the other dogs that have been there before. With the grass patch he has no reason to mark his territory. You say it would be hard to teach a dog how to pee on fake grass? The same way you teach them anything else! He pees on the grass, he gets a treat. Repeat this like you do with any other trick. They might step in there own poop? Like they wouldn’t do that outside? This fake grass is bringing outside, inside.

    Your ten reasons are opinion, not fact. I bet you haven’t even used or even tried it before. You are an idiot. And by the way, I have a 4-pound champion pure bread teacup Chihuahua and he has been fake grass trained since he was born. Instead of potty pads, he used fake grass. It took me 2 and a half months before he was done going to the bathroom in the house. Anyone who thinks these 10 reasons are true, you are an idiot as well.

    1. I just read that one as well. And once again your 10 reasons are all opinionated! You clearly have never used the fake grass before! And how are you going to write about how bad it is, but then how good it is. Obviously you wrote the “10 reasons to buy fake indoor grass for your dog” after you wrote this one. Because you contradict yourself in every reason you listed! Do you even own a dog? Or are you just a loser that is a critic about something they don’t have any experience with?

      1. Just to clarify, I’m not offended. I just can’t believe how STUPID SOME PEOPLE ARE, SUCH AS YOURSELF!

    2. And might I add, all your reasons as to why fake grass is good/bad are stupid! All you have to say is it’s bad because the dog owners are lazy. Or there good because some dogs have bladder control problems and whatever else you said. They are much easier and much, much, much more convenient than any option for taking your dog to the bathroom. And it isn’t being lazy, it’s being smart.

  51. Lindsay Stordahl

    It is much easier to allow the dog to pee on some grass in the house than to walk it down some stairs and take it into the yard. Couldn’t agree more.

  52. First off, I agree with one thing here, the fake grass is not practical. Due to the acute sense of smell of a dog, they will not go in the same place twice, and you as the owner can not see how many pee spots they have on it. Inevitably, they will pee on the floor to avoid the same spot, plus the disgusting chance of them walking in it, because they can’t see it either. So basically like most products out there, it’s a money wasting gimmick. Secondly, anyone who can’t train their small dog to a “pee pad” is lazy/inconsistant/ and/or doesn’t have adequate time to own a dog.

    The statement pertaining to small breeds and exercise – they don’t have nearly the same exercise needs that large breed dogs require, that’s why they are perfect for people who live in condos or apartments and are a perfect candidate for ‘pee pad’ training. They are too tiny to be rigorously exercised anyway. A nice walk out of doors is great, of course. My dog refuses to use it outside, will hold it until we get home and go on her pad. You don’t give dogs enough credit. They are like children and will do what you teach them, but you have to be consistant as with anything/anyone.

    It is inaccurate to say that indoor training will encourage a dog to pee on every given thing in your home. I have a 2-year-old Chihuahua, and she was completely ‘pee pad’ trained in a week and only had occasional accidents on the floor for a few months after. And the only reason she made mistakes on my carpet from time to time was because of the tenants before me who owned pets. I was vigilant and made sure she had a ‘pee pad’ in my room and the living room until she was old enough to understand where to go.

    I take her on trips to pet friendly hotels, throw down a pee pad and she goes on it and no where else. If I throw away her pad, get distracted, and forget to put one back down right away, she will wait until I do, usually pacing and barking for a few minutes until I get the message. I will give a quick tip here, though, my success is due in part to the size and type of ‘pee pads’ I use. Most people make the giant mistake of buying the dog training pads. BIG MISTAKE. You have to buy the “chuck” or “under” pads that are used in hospitals for elderly people and mother’s whom of which have just had a baby. They are a lot less expensive and so much better. My dog is eight pounds and I use the XL 30×36 “Assurance” brand.

    The other thing is that in order to have success, you must have a home that only has carpet in the bedrooms or to place a pad in a giant kennel crate with a plastic floor that slides in and out. Like in any situation regarding owning a pet, you have to ask yourself the big question, “am I truly prepared to have this animal in my care?” “Will I be giving it quality of life, and will I be meeting its needs not just my own?” Because like I said, they are very similar to having a baby, you have to be willing, able and really prepared to adjust your lifestyle for them.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Kelly, the problem is that most dog owners (owners of small dogs in particular) are not as dedicated as you. First of all, they don’t know how to train their dogs to use the pads and second, they don’t bother to learn. So the dogs do end up peeing all over because they never learn quite what to do. Obviously the pads work great for you and your dog. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  53. I agree that they shouldn’t be left alone for more than eight hours a day, especially Chihuahuas. You have to get a pair if you’re going to be gone long hours. I have the luxury of working inside the home and always have. My reasons for pad training are:
    1. I live on the third floor of a condo.
    2. She is too little to be outside all the time, and she eats everything she finds on the ground which upsets her fragile tummy.
    3. She doesn’t have to wait for me to take her down an elevator at 5 a.m. in freezing cold weather because Chihuahuas hate the cold.
    4. She has allergies.

  54. I just recently got an 8-month old puppy, and we’re beginning to potty train him. We just recently took him to go get his first shots and we mentioned to the vet that there are a lot of dogs in our apartment and that their owners do not clean up after them. He mentioned that since our puppy is not immune to much right now without his vaccinations, that it might be better to have him go inside on pads until he gets all his shots. I want to get him the fake grass because I feel so bad having him pee on pads, when later I’m going to train him to go outside. I really just want to put the grass on my patio and have him go there. What do you recommend?

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I recommend taking him outside. He will be fine. You do NOT want an great dane thinking he can go to the bathroom indoors.

      If you think you must use the fake grass or pads, I highly recommend putting fake grass on your patio rather than anything indoors.

  55. Well, while I am against getting fake grass and the habits that owners pick up with the potty pads, I’m not against the pads themselves. I’m considering getting my Frenchie one, modify it and put real grass in it for our outdoor patio. Simply for potty training purposes, since I live on a second floor apartment. But, I also take him for two to four short walks a day (cooler hours, of course). Now, I wouldn’t only let him go outside on this, I would still take him downstairs to go to the bathroom. The potty pad would simply be for quick accidents and getting him to learn grass is where he goes. Many, many, many years of potty training various dogs has imprinted good owner habits, living on a second floor apartment makes it a little harder, but not impossible.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I trust that you know what you’re doing. I still don’t recommend it, but I’m sure you can make it work for you and your dog.

  56. I would like to leave a comment for all the judgemental people who think people are nasty because they let their dogs use the bathroom in the house or in litter boxes/potty pads, etc. I have a toy Yorkie and he has severe allergies as if one flea gets on him it drives him crazy and he about scratches/chews a hole in his skin and throws up. He also has allergies like humans do when going outside. We can not use Frontline or any other products on him to keep the fleas off. He is also on special food for his allergies, and we use special soap when we bath him. I have the URGO and it works great! He does not get confused about where to go, and he will also go outside if needed as well. My house is very clean and does not smell like dog at all. Grown men and women pee on floors and toliet seats all the time cause they are too lazy to hit the hole, so I would much rather clean up after a small dog verses a grown human! Now, if I were a dog abuser I would be taking him outside to let him get sick. So people should really keep their own opinion, because I am sure people have their reasons for not letting the little dogs go outside to potty.

  57. Lindsay Stordahl

    I disagree. Although you may have good reasons to use an indoor bathroom for your dog (although I’m not convinced), the majority of people who use these products really are lazy and should probably not be dog owners.

  58. We used puppy pads to train our puppies when they were little. We also used newspaper in their whelping box. The puppy pads worked great. I was concerned to take them outside until they were old enough to have their first set of shots, and soon after was a very cold winter. At first, I was concerned about all the other animals in the neighborhood giving them parvo as we had a puppy pass away many years ago from the disease. Thankfully, we had no problem getting them to go outside when the time came, and they much preferred it. We also did not have any problem with the puppies mistaking other things for their puppy pads. Though they did prefer a certain brand. Recently we adopted a new puppy and have had him for almost a year now. He does very well going outside, but no matter how late we take him out, he will go before he is let out in the morning. He also likes to lay in his pee for some odd reason, so we have to bathe him constantly. I am hoping the grass pad works for him during the night. He has been to the vet, and their is no reason he should still be doing this. I am sure some people might feel it is laziness to use such a product, but sometimes their is not much of an alternative. I, for one, would like to stop waking up to a mess every morning, and I feel it is much more sanitary than having it on the floor that my family and kids share. Any advice is appreciated.

  59. Lindsay Stordahl

    If he is not sleeping in a kennel at night, I would recommend that. Usually dogs do not want to eliminate in their kennels. This dog may be an exception though, since he has no problem lying in his pee.

    And have you tried getting up once in the middle of the night to take him out? What if you did this for a month every night just to see if it made a difference? The goal would be for him to eventually make it through the entire night so you wouldn’t have to get up.

    The fake grass may be an option. I do hope it works, but I am not so sure it will. I agree that it would be a better option than cleaning up after your dog every morning.

    And finally, I am curious as to why you are calling this dog a puppy when you’ve had him for more than a year and he has to be at least a year old. This is going to sound odd, but if you think of him as a dog, he might start acting like a dog and not a puppy. Dogs do pick up on our subconscious feelings and act accordingly. Obviously I’m making assumptions here based on one comment and we have never met, but it’s just a thought.

    Thanks for visiting my blog.

  60. I think what has happened here is that your wording has obviously got some people out there butt hurt lol. I agree about using the grass but disagree about it being indoors. I put the grass on the patio while i go to work and my chiuahua uses it like so. He also walks while he poops whichis annoying lol but i have the long strip so it doesnt go off the grass..

    There isnt any need to get so upset its just an opinion. Im sure everyone knows that they are good owners or whatever.. especially those that let their ‘babies’ use the potty inside.. i salute those people due to having been trained by their dogs to pick up their mess.

    So in summery, grass good when outside on balcony, and opinions shouldnt get so many people butt hurt lol

  61. Well, stumbling on this article quoting 10 reasons not to use the fake grass, I had to read. I live on the top floor of a highrise and recently rescued a 2 1/2 year old mother Chihuahua and her four <1 week old pups just over 2 months ago. Yep, 5 dogs all at once. Best thing is, I haven't had a dog since I was <10 years old, his name was Prince, he was hit by a car and left me quite emotionally scarred. He was an outside dog, as they all seemed to be back in the 70s. Plus, I'm an asthmatic with a severe dog/cat/fur allergy. So, yea, pets were never on the top of my list of things to get.

    But getting these 5 babies was one of the best things to ever happen to me. When I got them they were covered in fleas and the mother was shaved nearly bald. Got to the vet and everybody cleaned up and they are the most amazing part of my life. During the initial phase where the mother was taking care of their excretions, they eventually became mobile and would use the weewee pads, but I also found them tracking and walking through it as well, so I searched for an alternative – finding these fake grass relief stations. I wasn't sure it would work – I mean they were a couple weeks old, right?

    Momma was already housebroken and I took her out on a very regular basis with great reward each time to ensure her ongoing happiness. Plus, being on the 35th floor, it's a long way up and down to the opposite end of the building, blah blah, but we had a great time – in fact during very early or late hours, I'd take off her leash for a bit, and she'd run and run all the way to the entry door, awaiting me to get there and go home. So cute.

    So, I got the grass. I put it directly in front of their communal bed and used the Puppy Training spray on it – and they figured it out right away. Then over the course of the next week, I slowly moved the grass further and further away from the bed. They came along, but some of them decided they only needed to put their front paws on the grass in order to pee – and we all know how my floor felt about that.

    Getting them used to a leash has been my biggest problem, and working 10 hours a day, it's also a time crunch thing – I come home every day at lunch to feed them and play for a half an hour. I spend my entire evening and time before work with them. But training them one at a time is going to require so much time and effort – and I feel that being gone for 4-6 hours sometimes in one shot isn't fair to them at such an early stage of training and development – so they have their grass on the balcony and they have their grass in their room, enclosed under a desk where they knowingly go – and if momma really has to relieve herself, she understands she can do so on the grass as well.

    In general, they don't pee anywhere else. Not in my bed, not on the rugs in the kitchen (unless left unattended for an extended period) or living room.

    The grass itself is soaked in bleach twice a week so there is never any real odor build up of anykind and I use doggie doo bags to pickup their droppings as quickly as possible. Thankfully, I only had a problem with one of the pups eating excrement, and we were able to stop that. They are great dogs.

    So, I hope to slowly get them more trained to go outside with Momma, but until then, these have provided me with a great solution that is efficient in usage and maintenance.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Sounds like it’s working and that’s great. Thanks for taking in this family of dogs. I hope it continues to go well.

  62. Lindsay,

    I believe you should have posted this with the title, ” 10 reasons why I would not use fake grass for my 65 pound dog, I know nothing about the product.”

    Your reply’s to individuals are rude and hateful. You are discussing your personal issues with your 65 pound dog. When posting a blog you might not want to start out by calling individuals lazy.

    I am sure your dog is an angel.

  63. Lindsey,

    By now you probably have noticed people get real touchy when you call them out to be lazy self absorbed little know it alls. Which is why I keep reading your posts LOL! Personally I feel your reasons are 100% correct, as I stated earlier my Chiuahua uses the grass on the porch but it doesn’t compare to the real thing. I can see that he reacts better to being in the yard when I take him. I think maybe people need to take a step back and just confess that they are lazy..

    Hell I’m lazy. That little bastard wakes me up at 7 A.M sharp to pee and sometimes I just dont feel like walking my ass downstairs to take him to the yard. I just open the balcony and leave the screen open to he can let himself back in so I can sleep. LOL. I love him though. But realisticly we are lazy, we know this when we buy the grass and we use it because we are eiather horrible disciplinarians or because we dont want to get up out of bed (me) Eiather way some people want to try to justify themselves, but you can’t.

    Smaller dogs, big dogs, dis-abled dogs, dogs that possibly could get eatten by something.. None of which will take place or need grass if we all got up and went out with the animal 30 mins after eating/drinking with a leash. We can do it, but wont because this product has made it so we dont have to. Say it like it is people. lol If this product never existed would you have designated a rug as a potty…? Just curious.. 😀

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Honestly, if I lived in an apartment in a city where I had to walk down several flights of stairs or take an elevator and then walk even more to some grass and I had a small dog, I would probably have grass on my balcony as well. Because let’s face it, we are all lazy!

      Do you know how lazy I am? All I have to do is put my dog’s leash on, open my back door and take one step outside to our yard to let him pee. My neighbors are even lazier because they just tether the dogs out there. They don’t even stand out there with the dog. So, I like your point that we are all a little lazy!

  64. @ LACE. Its called a blog for a reason. Because she can post whatever she damn well pleases. You are reading her blog, her opinions, her thoughts.. and are offended by it. So write a blog about it 😀 lmao oh and turn your parental filter on so you wont be ‘offended’ by the other 15 million+ blogs posts and pages that might hurt your feelings.

    Sincerly,
    The Internet

  65. Some people actually need to work for a living and their dogs cant be taken out during the day. And some people cant afford a “dog sitter” and cant “come home on their breaks”.

    YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!

    Get a job and stop posting stupid IGNORANT SHIT!

    1. Jen. Why the hell do you even have a dog then? It sounds like you either can’t afford to care for it or you don’t have time. Your probably the same person that posts her animals on Craig’s list saying they have to find their ‘baby’ a good home by the end of the week or else they will go to the aspca.. oh and there’s a $250 removing fee. Stop being such a bitch

  66. I live in upstate NY border with Canada and in winter months we get a lots of snow 4,6, feet of it, the temp drop below 0 to often. I am considering the fake grass for that reason. i have 2 chihuahuas and a big fenced back yard but they are so small that their little feet get frozen within minutes sometimes it take less them a minute and they can not walk and it is painful to them, so i have to pick them up and bring them inside. I am not lacy, just concern for my babies. But thank u to all cuz i have learned alot from this blog. Thank u Lindsay
    PS i do shove a large area for them to go, its more the cold and add the wind to it freezzzzziiiing lol

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      You gotta do what you gotta do! I live in Fargo, N.D., so I totally get what you are saying about the cold and snow! I know you will do what is best for your little ones.

  67. Well I thought this blog would convince me NOT to purchase the indoor grass; however after reading all these comments, and asking my VET and my trainer, I am sorry Lindsay, but purely from a debate perspective (and education, unless you, too are a vet), you lose this argument. In fact, I am grateful to hear the success stories from the other people who have trained their dogs successfully to use this. I am about to move into a high-rise in an urban neighborhood. Midnight runs (so to speak) for my dog outside – not so safe. Having a small dog I love who gets to go outside MOST of the time? Priceless. And, no offense, but I’ll take my vet’s advice over that of a mere dog walker/sitter.

  68. Ugh… what is it with you people? Gia.. nobody asked you to take her advice. You clicked on this damn link. If you had prior recommendations from your vet about this topic then why are you looking here for opinions? Because that is what they are, duh. Pull your head out of your ass. And I’m more then positive your lying about the vet advice, seeing as every vet I know suggests a dog to be trained to go outside to potty, including myself, a vet tech with 6 years expierence

  69. Lindsay Stordahl

    Thanks, Marie! I have yet to come across a vet who will recommend fake grass, but I’m sure there’s one out there somewhere. Dog owners will do what they want to do, regardless.

    1. Because there isn’t a vet alive who cares about their creditability that would suggest this product. All vets suggest outdoors as a sanitation issue, and a mental strain for your dog! The dog sees the pad but if it’s left inside he only sees a soft high area which is okay to pee.. so what’s next? Your bed? Their beds? No one considers the dogs weak mental ability to distinguish his potty pad from other normal soft household items. Just admit your lazy, don’t lie about your vet telling you that it’s the right thing to do, And be a damn adult. Take responsibility or at least fess up to your laziness, there is no harm in that.

  70. Boy, some of you guys are mean! I have fake grass on my balcony. There is a doggy door. I’m home 24/7, but I’m too lazy to even get up and let them out on a regular schedule, perhaps because I’m disabled. I have two small Bichon-type dogs that, besides having to let themselves out to potty, are spoiled rotten. Poops are picked up daily, and I put pee pads under the grass which are changed every couple of days. Usually. Remember, I’m lazy and disabled so I might miss a day…or two. The fake grass is soaked in a detergent and rinsed off every week or so. “Or so,” is probably most accurate. I think it’s cleaner than the grass downstairs where everybody else takes their dogs to potty. I know that it’s cleaner than the sidewalks of Manhattan which is where I used to have to take my dog out…no grass in sight that you were allowed to let your dog use. BTW: For a while, I used to buy a 2’x5′ piece of sod from Home Depot or a nursery every week. I had one of those under-bed plastic storage boxes, rigged up some screens for the grass to sit on and put a bunch of pee pads underneath. It was just too difficult to go buy the sod, and too gross to change it and try to lug this huge, pee-filled chunk of dirt to the trash. Admittedly, it’s really disgusting to soak the fake grass and rinse the trays in my tub, but I sterilize afterwards.

    1. Liza you remind me of my great grandmother… she put alot. Of love and care for her animals despite whatever problems she had physically. I want to go ahead and applaud you for taking such good care of your babies. I speak as someone who is lazy, and I too use the grass on my patio even though I am perfectly able to walk myself downstairs and outside my apartments with my Chihuahua. The thing is, Lindsey is early stating her thoughts and ideals. I think she’s done one he’ll of a job patiently defending her opinions despite having been attacked by almost every poster. So I feel the need to back her up, in my own rude sort of way, lol. When I work in shelters I see dogs all the time so confused about things, for good reason. I stand by what I said, I have not known a colleague here in the Harris county area that would recommend this grass, though I am also ignorant to the ways of your area

  71. Marie… Neither of my dogs have any problem distinguishing the carpet, sofa, or my bed from the fake grass. When I’m in a hotel or other situation requiring a pee pad, their mental ability is also not so weak that they can’t distinguish pee pads from the carpet or furnishings. The one issue I have is that one dog does prefer to poop (not pee) on concrete on the balcony, if it is available to her. But she also doesn’t have a problem distinguishing the concrete from hardwood or tile floors inside. My vets have all thought pee pads or fake grass is fine, and I’m sure at least one of them cares about their credibility. Of course, ALL we people and our vets are “fake” plastic nuts and flakes in the Hollywood/Beverly Hills area…and, I suppose, in Manhattan, too.

  72. Lindsay Stordahl

    Thanks for sharing your side, Liza. Obviously this system is working fine for your little ones except for the pooping issue from the one dog. Could you just go back to the basics and have him on a leash when he goes so you can control him? And reward when he does go in the correct spot? That would be my suggestion.

  73. It am neither for or against fake grass – I can see how it can be useful – but it’s also easy to know that many people will just abuse it. Such as being lazy and not walking their dogs. You are entitled to you opinions, and the original post of 10 reasons are alright, but I don’t blame the others for being defensive or upset with you. They’re not upset because they like it and you don’t, they’re upset because you have been rude about it.

    You asked for their opinion, but when anyone points out a single good point about fake grass, you basically just reply with “maybe it works for you, but I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, it’s still wrong. BTW You sound defensive, you’re probably lazy.” Of course people will be defensive when the first sentence accuses them of being lazy, and it’s insulting and rude to call people lazy basing solely on the fact that they use fake grass. Especially when aren’t actually lazy, fake grass just works better for some situations, you ended up admitting some yourself in your other post that there are some reasons as to why it can be good.

    You might dismiss this comment – like in some of your other replies – suggesting that I could chill out, since it’s “just fake grass, do what you like”. Honestly I don’t actually care that much about fake grass, but I do think you would be doing yourself a favor if you try and be more open minded. Since you actually ended up writing a 2nd post with 10 reasons to use fake grass, it shows you aren’t completely closed minded either. So why not try and bring that in to how you relate to others? Just try and be less sarcastic, and more respectful, after all, these commentors did spend time responding to your posts, and it’s gennerally a good rule to treat others how you’d like to be treated.

    1. What part of, it’s her blog she can write whatever she damn well pleases do you not get? There are some blogs on white supremacy as well if you’d like to march your primpy little ass over to those people and tell them they are “so rude and need to watch how they say things on the internet. ” ugh people these days, if you don’t like it then click the little red x button on the top right hand corner. Problem solved.

  74. Lindsay Stordahl

    I just don’t take the whole fake grass thing very seriously. That’s all. Of course it works for some situations. I know I’ve set myself up for people to attack me on this post. I have it coming! Totally get that!

  75. Non Lazy Dog Owner Lori

    Not all people who are interested in this are lazy. My dog is currently on large doses of steriods and I live in an apartment building. It is not alway easy getting him out of the building even if we do walk him every 2-3 hours.

    So people stop being so damn critical until you know all the circumstances surrounding a situation.

    I am a GREAT dog owner!

    1. Oh my effing God. Yes miss lazy ass Lori,you are lazy. If you know the exact time span that your dog does his business due to the steroids then you have enough damn time to take his ass outside. Your lazy. Fess up to it and don’t cackle like a damn hen when someone calls you down on it. If you feel the need to state several times, and as well as in your screen name that you arnt lazy, well then guess what ?? Your lazy!!!! Ugggggghhhhhhhhhhh you people are so damn ignorant. Noone is saying your a bad dog owner, just a lazy one. Deal with it. Jesus how lindsey doesnt just tell you all off i have no idea. AND HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED THAT AT THE BEGGINING OF THIS BLOG EVERYONE AGREED UNTIL ONE POSTER REFFERED THAT HER “FRIEND” HAD A LIGIT EXCUSE TO YOU THIS STUFF?? It was like a snowball effect after that.

    2. Lindsay Stordahl

      My dog was on steroids for a short amount of time, and he also had to go to the bathroom a lot. I’m glad the fake grass is helping you and your dog.

  76. I have one of these on my patio. I walk my dog on my lunch break and before and after work. BUT….my pup loves to get up and pee in the middle of the night. She knows enough to wake me. But I’ll be damn’d if I’m walking the apartment grounds by myself in the middle of the night. So I think this is a great solution to my night walking fear.

    1. Congratulations Donna for stealing my heart and earning respect…. can I get a witness? Donna your amaziiiiiinnggggggg!!! Finally someone who owns up to their own problems, ect ect…:)

  77. I’m genuinely considering getting one of these, though for an entirely different reason than almost all listed above (I’m guessing, because after 2+ pages, it becomes a very time consuming read). My house has none of the issues with potty training, though we do have an “old man” that has gotten to where he occasionally (less than 2x per month average) runs into some tummy troubles, which can be vomiting, the runs, or both. If we can catch it in time to run down the stairs with him and directly outside, crisis averted, but alas, not always the case. Since he is trained, and goes to the door and asks to go out, every single time, *unless it sneaks up on him*, we generally manage to avoid accidents and messes, and he knows that grass means he goes where the grass is. Now, my thoughts are, rather than giving him potty pads, which are likely going to be almost the same color as my light carpeting, why not give him the grass?

  78. I recently got a 2 year old Chihuahua from a rescue, and this dog was not easy to house train. Being that he is a male (even though neutered) he always wants to mark everything! I seriously contemplated getting the fake grass with a fake plant for him to mark, but ultimately decided against it. I figured if I was consistent and took him outside every 2-3 hours or so, he’d eventually learn. He hates the cold Canadian weather, and also hates wearing his little coat, but after a lot of love and A LOT of treats, he is finally not having accidents in my apartment!

    1. There is a big difference between a dog marking and a dog relieving himself. I’m glad your dog is learning not to mark in the house. It does help if you take them outside a lot because then there is less urine stored up for marking. If your dog is truly marking, though, you need to teach him not to do that by correcting him in the act and supervising him whenever he is not in a kennel. You can get a belly band for him to wear until he is fully trained not to mark in the house. A belly band is basically a diaper.

  79. We are using one in our garage because we have a hairless dog and the weather is often too harsh. We still walk him. It’s not because we are lazy. I never planned to have him use it in the house. I see reasons why some people would though.

  80. This is a great thread!

    I have a 1 year old Yorkie, whom I THOUGHT I had potty trained successfully. Up until a month ago he started to poo in the house and won’t go outside.

    I almost considered the grass pad, but it makes me nervous that he will think it’s ok to pee on my carpet.
    I am at my witts end with my puppy because he is going backwards with potty training. I have never heard of a dog being housebroken, reverting back to mischief. Anyone have any idea why?

  81. Lindsay Stordahl

    Do you live in an area where it’s colder? Maybe he doesn’t like the colder weather.

    I don’t like the idea of fake grass indoors because like you suggested, the dog might think he can go anywhere in the house. I would restrict his freedom. Keep him on a leash and near you when you are home. Keep him in a kennel when you are not home. Go back to the basics for a few months until you trust him again. Treat him like he is a new dog that is not yet potty trained.

  82. We just adopted two daschund brothers. The other night, when on our potty walk, one of them broke free from his leash (his harness broke), ran into the street where he was hit by a car, and ran away into the surrounding woods. We searched all night, and went to bed heart broken.

    The next morning he scratched on the door and found his way home.
    We were lucky.

    I dont find it lazy to train them to pee inside, so as to avoid the busy street and distractions that come with nighttime. If being lazy will prevent another night like the one we had, then I sure am glad to be guilty.

  83. I’ve had 2 Chihuahuas for 6 years, they need to pee alot, tiny bladders. I have them trained to go on a piece of vinyl then I put TP on the spot and pick it up to throw in the toilet, well I am tired of not having a bathroom, I want to try the pet grass in a closet, with the door ajar. I just don’t know if they will like fake grass.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      It’s hard to break a habit once a dog is trained to pee somewhere. But you could train them to pee on the fake grass just as you would housetrain a dog to pee in a certain spot outside. You will probably need to close off access to your bathroom for awhile in order to get your dogs to use the grass instead. But you may want to have both options available to them at first until they understand it is OK to pee on the fake grass. Otherwise they may not know where to go and will end up going somewhere you don’t want them to.

  84. It is rare to come across such a consistent batch of judgemental knuckleheads. I have a 14 1/2 year old lab who I have truly loved as a best friend. I have probably taken him on an estimated 15,000 to 20,000 walks in his lifetime and have never placed my own selfish needs before his. I live on the second floor of a garden style condo and the only option I have to take him out is a flight of 20 steep concrete steps. Over the last year, while he is still healthy in many other respects, he has had increasing trouble getting up and down the stairs to go for a walk. For the past six months, I have helped him get up the steps by carrying his hind legs. Now he is hesitating at the top of the steps when going down and has even fallen a couple of times. He weighs 80 pounds and I simply cannot carry him down the steps 3-4 times a day. I am devastated by this and he has too much life in him to consider putting him to sleep. I am going to buy one of these pads for my balcony so I may continue to enjoy the company of my beloved friend. WTF would any of you jerks do? So before you just jump to ignorant conclusions, maybe you should consider the context in which things may occur.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Obviously there are perfectly good reasons to use the fake grass. This post is not exactly directed at someone like you. I had a 70-pound golden retriever who could not walk on her own during her last days. I had to carry her outside, and luckily I did not have to go up or down any flights of stairs. I only had to carry her down two or three porch steps and then hold her up while she relieved herself.

      I can definitely understand why you would want to use this product, and I hope it makes life easier for you and your dog. Enjoy your time together.

  85. if its not a good idea why do dog experts like:
    Victoria Stilwell,
    Zack Goerge etc
    use it I think that your not as clever as them so shut up you and everyone if you don’t know

    1. There is a dog “expert” out there to recommend every product. One dog expert will recommend a shock collar while another will say it’s inhumane. One dog expert will recommend a retractable, Flexi leash while another advises against it. Every product out there will work well for some dog/owner pairs and not for others.

      1. We just moved to an apartment 3 stories up, no elevator. Formerly potty trained dog now pees on carpet. I thought the grass pad on the patio would help her for nighttime. What do u suggest?

        1. Lindsay Stordahl

          I suggest taking her outside more often and crating her when you can’t supervise, basically going back to the basics.

          1. I think crating a dog is not right. Don’t leave them for long period of time you say but you’re for crating them? WOW!

        2. Anonymous,
          I was in the same situation (3rd floor, no elevator…and I broke my foot!). We used a potty patch on the balcony. It was sometimes annoying to clean up but my dogs never went potty in the apt. when they had the patch. And as soon as we moved into a house with a yard we got rid of it and we have had no accidents inside. It’s not ideal but it’s better than nothing. I don’t think having one means you walk them less, etc. We still walked our as much as before getting the patch. Frankly, not everyone can afford a pet sitter or day care, etc. If you need it, use it. Just keep it clean and take her out as often as you can. (And I happen to be a dog trainer.)

        3. I suggest that ater dinner your dog gets a long walk-30 to 40 min…then right before nightime…10 or 11 you need to walk her to the corner…dogs love routine she/he will get to understand that when you take her ourside she uses the bathroom…but you must stick with it and be consistent…I know that after a week or so or less your dog will sleep soundly all night and not need to go to the bathroom.
          First thing in the morning…take the dog to the corner…then shower, get dressed…feed the dog and then walk your dog again 30 to 40 min…so 2 walks a day..

  86. As I read this list, I feel like the reasons were too generalised and rather “worst case scenario”. I agree with the concept here but not the actual reasons. Mind you, this isn’t a personal attack…I just am not convinced by the reasoning here.

    The thing is, small breed dogs aren’t harder to train; they just are more likely to come with bad habits. There’s nothing inherently wrong with small dogs that makes them hard to train. All problems in this field can be attributed to the humans (breeders? first owner? rescue workers?) Being consistent and very diligent in your training has nothing to do with the breed of the dog but of the work ethic and dedication of the owner.

    I think Number 2 on the list is rather clever, actually. My dog has learned that he only wants to pee in ivy because at my old place, the grass was surrounded by HUGE patches of ivy. Well, I’m moving and there’s no ivy to be found in downtown. I may try and buy him some fake ivy to surround the fake grass to make him feel more at home. (He’ll be peeing at night in the parking structure because walking around at 11pm downtown by myself is like asking to be mugged.)

    Yes, having fake grass is unsanitary. Yes, dogs are gross and will eat their own poo. Neither of these things are really reasons not to buy fake grass though. To me, it seems like fake grass is *infinitely* more work than just taking my dog out to pee on the corner.

    The fact of the matter is, there’s always a responsible and an irresponsible way to use the tools that are out there for dog owners. You can’t blame the dog for peeing everywhere if you haven’t taught him the difference. I feel like maybe it’s the same thing for dog owners. You can’t blame them for using a product wrong when you haven’t shown them the right way to use it.

    Think about fake grass this way: If you treated fake grass like it was just a piece of the outside that you’ve brought inside, then you wouldn’t really be dealing with all these problems. If you put the fake grass in an isolated area, if you put a harness/collar/leash on your dog before walking him out to the fake grass (wherever it may be), if you cleaned it immediately and frequently, you can avoid almost every reason not to buy fake grass on this list. Don’t blame the product. Blame the owner. To me, tool use is all about the PERSON making a conscious decision to use a tool in a specific way.

  87. Our next door neighbors use this..it is horrible. They have a real small porch, 4×4 or so, they throw the dog outside on that stupid fake grass & the dog barks & barks..I have never seen them clean it, gross. Worst thing is they have a huge fenced in yard! They are the epitomy of lazy..even when they walk the dog (few times a month), they immediately put it outside on that stupid fake grass & the barking commences yet again!

      1. I highly disagree with that comment very much. It’s actually stereotyping and very false. Not everyone who uses one is lazy. We live in an upstairs apartment and have a 7 month of Maltipoo, the vet recommended this because potty triaining for him was difficult. By time he would get downstairs ( even if we took him out every 15-20min) he wouldn’t make it. So now he is trained to go to the back door and he goes out on the puppy patch. But it has trained him to go to the door, so when were visiting other people he will go to the door, and we can go outside just fine. I am not lazy with my beloved pup, just caring enough to give him the option to use the puppy patch.

      2. I think that was a terrible comment to make as well. How about this….what if you are severely disabled and have brittle bones that break with NO PRESSURE and can’t make it outside easily with an animal who gives you unconditional love. Does that mean you not only deal with pain your entire life but you also can’t have a companion??? Some people need to use the product and your stereotyping is so awful. Think of others instead of forcing your opinions onto others. I came on to your article to learn about an alternative to my puppy pad. Yes I am one that had a YORKIE as you say, and yes she is potty pad trained. I she has suddenly decided to start peeing all around my NEW carpet that had been placed through the entire house. Not CHEAP. So I am trying to solve this issue. Some comments bothered me that you made but this one took the cake.

  88. I think most people that buy the indoor potties for their dog, do so with very good reason since, if you have a yard, it is much easier to let the dog use the yard. We have purchased the Potty Park and previously used it in a condo with a doggy door out to a walled back patio. I would also like to point out that our dog gets regular walks and exercise every single day.

    Now we have moved to a different condo without a yard, a doggy door or an enclosed patio. We want her to be comfortable if we’re gone for a long stretch during the day so we are currently training her to use the Potty Park indoors (she doesn’t seem to want to use it indoors though, so it will take time). We’ve put it in the shower of an extra bathroom and it’s hidden with a shower curtain so no one even has to see it.

    The potty has a tray below that is very easy to remove and dump into the toilet. I did find that the urine has a strong odor in the tray so I came up with a solution. I sprinkle a bit of Smelleze in a small biodegradable tray that I place inside the Potty Park tray. It solidifies the urine and there is no longer an odor.

    I don’t think buying an indoor dog potty is lazy. I think it shows a lot of love that you do what you can to make sure your dog is comfortable. Besides, indoor potty’s require regular maintenance so you can’t have one and be lazy anyway. As long as your dog is still getting plenty of exercise, an indoor dog potty can be the perfect solution for many people and many dogs.

  89. Wow, lots of interesting feedback here. I think it all comes down to good owners vs. bad owners.

    I have a dog that is somewhat incontinent (needs to pee every 10-20 minutes). The grass pad has made her life more pleasant and saved the floor. I work from home and she has access to real grass too. She just uses what is most convenient for her and it makes her a pretty happy pooch. And thank goodness she has never eaten her own feces, though it gets cleaned up pretty fast.

    There are many people out there that should not be dog owners and use this as an excuse to leave their poor dog locked up all day, but there are also a few responsible ones out there.

    Thanks for writing this post!

    1. I agree if a person buys a fake grass does not mean your lazy . I had shoulder surgery cant becuz dr said no pulling on arm I am not lazy just injured. So you have To do what is best For each person. Everything cost money. Sounds like everyone loves their doggies.

  90. If the fake grass works for your dog, then that’s what counts. To call someone lazy for finding a solution is really pure ignorance. I can’t believe some of the earlier posts from people. Just because it doesnt work for you, doesnt mean it’s not a good solution for someone else.

  91. I just got a beautiful bullgod puppy, and I am in the military. I love dogs, and I am about to get out, for the time being, we live in an apartment on the 3rd floor. Now we take him out every hour for a run, and after each time he eats, or wakes up, or after hes done playing, we take him out as well, and we have him on a good schedule, but there are times when my girlfriend and I have to be at work, and there are 3-4 hours in between where he will be alone. So I wanted to try and get the fake grass so when we leave, he knows to go out the doggy door to the porch to pee…It has been 4 days, and I trained him to bark at the door when he has to go potty, so I believe I can train him to do use this properly, just in case of emergency’s

  92. My wife and I recently purchased a Potty Pad (artificial turf) for our new Corgi puppy. This decision was influenced by a couple factors.

    1. We live in downtown St Louis and walking a dog late at night is not safe for my wife (I do this unless I’m out of town).
    2. When house-breaking and our puppy is caught in the act of eliminating inside it is easier to stop him and move him to the pad versus going down the elevator and a grassy area.

    I was aprehensive about the pads but since starting ther use Louie (our pup) has started going right to the pad. He still gets walked 3-4 times a day outside for not only exercise but to reinforce outdoor training.

    My hope is that once he is house broken and can hold his bladder through the night and/or more than 3 hours we can slowly remove the pad.

    My only fear is that when we move to a house (within a year) will the indoor training carry over? The new location will allow us to walk and/or let outside at all hours.

    Time will tell by for now it definitely has made life easier on all of us.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I am glad it is working out OK. A common problem people run into when they remove the pad is that the dog has already learned to go inside and then starts to go on the floor where the pad was or on rugs and things that look similar to the pad. But as long as you are consistent with training, I’m sure you will be fine. The problem, as you know, is that most people are not consistent.

  93. I think your article has a lot of a very valid reasons. I spent a huge amount of time training my dog and ensuring he is 100% housetrained, and it pains me that I am considering this product at all. Unfortunatly my dog has IMHA, a very deadly immune system issue and with the drugs he is on he just cannot hold it any longer than 3 hours. We have had to resort to pee pads and potentially a litter box with fake grass, as the alternative is for him to go on the floor. So while I agree with a lot of this, please understand its not all lazy dog owners, but sometimes ill or elderly dogs that might make use of these.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I do understand. I appreciate your comment, and I am sorry your dog has an immune system issue. I hope that some sort of setup with pads or fake grass will make his life more comfortable. And less stressful for you!

    2. Sarah,

      I understand completely what you are going through. My dog developed IMHA at the age of two. However, I am happy to announce he is now 14 years old! My vet who has pulled him through 3 times calls him her miracle dog.

      Good luck to you and your dog!!

  94. We have a small dog that hates to go outside to do his business when it is wet or cold. I do not blame him, his little bottom is too close to the cold, wet area. we are looking for option for him to use when the weather is too cold or wet. are not lazy, as know that indoor options are labor intensive to keep clean. but want to have option for him to use for his comfort. We live in the mountains, and weather can be pretty cold here.

  95. Melanie Mitchell

    I have this for my baby in the yard b/c I have desert landscaping and it’s hard to see the poo i rocks. Also, it’s easier for her to go in one area than for me to have to go on a crap hunt. My dog doesn’t eat poo so I’m lucky that way ( heck she won’t eat a steak w/o A1 sauce) LOL. I think it depends on the puppy parent. I think absent puppy parenting is absentee puppy parenting w/ or w/o fake grass. 🙁 Oh and I clean the poo daily I have kids so I don’t want them stepping in it. I guess it depends on the person/ dog situation. Ciao good luck.

  96. The GOOD news is there are only ten generalizations in this article. The BAD news is there are ten generalizations made in this article without little consideration for particular circumstances.

    Wonder what the writer of this article would recommend for a pet person who has suffered numerous sun and heat strokes and can’t go out in the high heat of summer in this area. Would the suggestion be to give up my furry friend for a cat? Thanks but NO THANKS!!

  97. This post is rather insulting and takes a narrow view of the product. How is it lazy to provide an indoor bathroom for your dog? If the dog is going to be alone for 8 hours sure it COULD hold it but why force it? I believe your point was that indoor grass will not be right for every dog and is not a substitute for conscientious care of a pet. Branding something as lazy rather than differentiating its proper use from its misuse is lazy.

  98. Everyone has their own methods and preferences. No one should be judging others without knowing all the facts. I for one think setting up an alternative spot for dogs that are not able to get outside freely, is providing an opportunity for a dog to not worry about having to hold it for so long. Small tiny teacup dogs pee often and it’s not “lazy” to teach them to fake grass or potty pads, it’s more practical. I wouldn’t want my teacup running around my fenced in yard and have a hawk grab it and fly away (which has happened to several tiny teacups). Also, small dogs do not need as much exercise as larger breeds so it’s not “lazy” to not take them for walks, it’s typical to have indoor play. Not to mention, for example, I live in a house that has an open basement which means my tiny dogs would be required to go downstairs and use the dogdoor to get out should I not be home. Not all small dogs can do stairs and it’s not good for their backs. So unfortunately some people make the best out of an unfortuante situation. It’s a personal option and really shouldn’t be judged.

  99. Ok I’m sorry but after reading these 10 so called reasons I think you’re an even bigger idiot than from your last post. First off my yorkie puppy who is 4 months old LOVES the weewee patch. He’s a bashful pup and the fake grass is actually soothing him because he feels as if his business is being hidden. It took me weeks for him to understand the peepee pad. As soon as I layed the weewee pad down he ran onto it and guess what. He PEED! Yes I agree dogs are pack animals but they are also created by man! If I want my pup to pee on fake grass trust me hell learn. There are people to treat their dogs for doing housework because they simply can’t. I don’t know about you but I for one wouldn’t like going out in the freezing cold and doing my business while my owner watches anxiously waiting to shove a treat down ur throat so u can comprehend that its a positive association. Julius will go to the pad and the pad only and I repeat he is 4 months old! Granted he has accidents but he knows its wrong he just can’t hold it long enough. It todays society guess what sweetheart unless ur born into a billion dollar family, you have to get off your butt and work! That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy company and love by your pup\kitty! People have been doing it and will continue to do it. He enjoys knowing that I’m not spacing out on his poop while he’s trying to release. Yorkies love noise so the sound of the tv and my parents talking soothes him and let’s him go with no stress. So I either suggest u don’t knock something till you’ve tried it or close your blog and change professions. And an fyi, my pup is a male and yes HE LIFTS, yet he’s not a lab, his wizz won’t land on the wall! Furthest small dogs go is maybe 1 inch. You just have to guide ur dog and he will learn to aim!

  100. I have a indoor potty for my 4 month old Pomeranian; it’s just a tray with a grate on top. I toss paper towels in the bottom and it’s very easy to clean and keeps his feet dry. I am a first time dog owner and did a lot of research before getting my dog… It seemed to me that being adamant about the dog *always* going outside is really for our own convenience, not his. It’s less messy, it’s less accident prone than if it were *never* okay to go inside, etc. But I can not accept that even the most diligent dog owners never have situations where they’re late getting home and their dog has to wait for them. Even if they never have accidents, why should he have to adhere to your schedule? I would submit that it’s because you’re too “lazy” to maintain a potty for him. If I had to wait for my spouse to come home to go to the bathroom, I would pee myself (lol). I can go potty whenever I want. My cat can go potty whenever she wants. I think my dog should have that freedom too. It can also reduce the anxiety of being left alone (which is an issue for poms and other companion dogs) if he knows he doesn’t have to wait for me to let him out.
    Maybe I’m missing something, but this was my rationale for an indoor potty. It’s a lot more work than if I just took him outside, but I don’t think he should have to wait, ever. I trained him on his potty from the very beginning, and with diligence and proper confinement, it was pretty easy. When he’s too old for his exercise pen, I plan on building a bench with a doggy door to hide the potty inside, so he can have his own private bathroom.
    I agree with some of the above comments that most of the arguments in the article were straw-men, assuming neglectful owners. The worst part is, they missed out on the primary reason why you shouldn’t buy grass potties: they stink. They are extremely difficult to clean, they trap urine, and provide a lovely breeding ground for bacteria. Enough said.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      You are obviously a very responsible dog owner and this is working out just fine for you. We both know that is not the case with the majority of the people who buy this type of product.

  101. My dog is a (soon to be) 3 year old Border Collie/Pit mix. She’s very active and therefore, the keeping her inside all day idea just isn’t an option. However I’m still saving up to try and get the potty patch (or one of the ones like it, not sure which at the moment) and I’ll explain why.

    I don’t think the fake grass itself is actually a problem. I think it’s how it is used that causes the problems. For Brookie (my dog), this will not be a walk time replacement or something for her to use if I am gone for 12+ hours at a time. I am getting it for convenience and the following reasons:

    1) I’m a college student, and sometimes, I oversleep before class. We’ve all been there. Rushing through the morning routine to try and get to class or an exam on time. On these days, Brookie is the one who suffers. She gets taken out to a small patch of mulch around a tree and if she doesn’t do her business in 5-10 minutes, she has to hold it till I get back from my up to 3 hours of class. I don’t like that, and I feel horrible about it, but the reality is I am the type to sleep through my alarm. Rather than keep feeling bad about it, I’m doing something about it. If I get a potty patch and take the time to teach her what it is for, I can put it on my balcony. On days when I’m running late, I can let her out there while I’m brushing my teeth and getting dressed. She’ll have 20 minutes or more (depending on how many times I forget something and keep running back and forth from room to room) to sniff and relieve herself without being rushed. When she’s done, I can just let her back in and scoop up her poop in a baggie before I run out the door. Then she’ll get her full walk when I get home.

    2) I live in Miami, Florida. We get these wonderful hurricanes that everyone knows about. What everyone doesn’t usually know about is that we also get these really windy rainstorms that are absolutely miserable and quite dangerous to be walking around in that are sometimes called Tropical Storms, but sometimes just come on as sudden rainstorms that last anywhere from 15 minutes to 3 hours. Brookie didn’t get that pitty bravery that many pit mixes get. Instead, she got that Border Collie super-alertness and she pays very very close attention to any noises or movement. In a windy rainstorm, getting her to use the restroom when there’s palm fronds bouncing around and the whistling wind, she refuses to lower her head and satellite ears long enough to sniff even one inch of grass. What’s more, she’s shivering both from the cold and from anxiety from all the noise. She spends the whole time outside trying to drag me back inside, even though I know she needs to use the restroom. With one of these grass systems, I could work with her and train her to use it to do her business. If she knows what the fake grass is for, then in these storms where it is either too dangerous for her to be outside, or she is too scared to be outside, she could still use the potty.

    I would never want to do something that would hurt my Brookie or deny her the basics that a dog needs, such as outdoor time, proper training, enough time to explore and relieve herself, etc, but in some situations, I can definitely see this being helpful. Especially for people in areas with hurricanes, tornadoes, and serious snow. In a snow storm, wouldn’t it be helpful if your dog could stay safely inside until the storm dies down? Visibility reaches practically zero in some of those storms. And in a tornado, when you’re all hunkered down in your shelter for who knows how long, wouldn’t it be great if your dog knew that the fake grass in the corner of the room was his/her place to go potty? Brookie would, and has in the past – we were snowed in up north once and we couldn’t leave the house, go over 24 hours without going to the bathroom. We tried putting newspaper down in the bathtub and telling her it was okay but she just wouldn’t have it. She just kept whining and there was nothing I could do to help her. The doors wouldn’t open bc of all the snow and my poor little girl didn’t want to have an accident in the house because her previous owners potty trained her to be, apparently, the most in house potty polite dog ever.

    So anyway, I see why you’re concerned about the indoor grass patches, but I feel like the same as people who are concerned about pits being dangerous. It’s not the dog, it’s how the person trains them. With the potty patches, it’s not the actual device itself that is problematic. It’s the people who misuse the device and take advantage of it who are the biggest risk to the dogs.

    – J

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I hope it works out well for you and your dog. Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Personally, I would make sure to get up earlier enough to walk my dog. I don’t think it’s fair to use the alarm clock as an excuse not to get up five minutes earlier so the dog has enough time to go to the bathroom. But that is just me, and I know everyone’s situation is different. My dog will also go to the bathroom immediately if I do sleep in and only have a minute to take him out. But not every dog is like that.

  102. Robert Bradford

    I will be taking my dog on a boat for a long cruise. I will take him ashore when I can, but need to have him go on the deck (can easily wash down) when necessarily. Your comments please.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I was actually thinking that this would be the perfect product for a cruise trip with a dog. You should train your dog to use the grass before the cruise so he knows what to do. Let me know how it goes!

  103. I have a dog that is trained to go outside, due to a pit bull getting to him, a stray in the yard, he got his eye and nerve damage to left front leg. Trying to give him someplace safe to go while recouperating from his injury. He is walked along with his son, as often as possible. I work until 10pm and will walk them for an hour. They are trained NOT to leave the yard, if they slip their leads. I have to have an alternative. You have good reasons, but I think in cases of emergencies and long hours, having a doggy door and porch with area for dogs to go should be justified. How would you like to hold it for 8 hrs? I can’t without drinking. As a LPN my hours can be long, but I do what I can to make my dogs comfortable. Usually they can’t wait until I get home to let them out. Again good article but there are people, responsible owners, that have to have alternatives.

  104. Hi Lindsay,
    I was just about to buy fake grass until I read your article.

    My girlfriend and I just got a small Morkie Pup and we are not sure the best way to train him to releive himself.
    We have tried Pee Pad and he seems to understand the process fine. But pee pads look disgusting and I would prefer if he could be trained to go outside.

    We are teachers and have the time to train him for two months. But when we go back to school in September we will have to leave him for 7-8 hours. What is the best way to prepare him for that?

    Thanks
    Dean

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Here is a post I wrote on potty training a puppy: http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/08/25/dog-housetraining/

      I would avoid having the dog pee in the house at all. Most people work 8-hour shifts and dogs are fine to stay home that long. If you can make it home for lunch to let him out, that would be ideal. Or you could hire a dog walker. But if not, the dog should be able to go 8 hours. When housebreaking, just supervise the dog at all times and kennel him when you can’t supervise. Take him outside – often – to the same spot and reward, reward, reward. If you are consistent, you should be able to potty train him in two weeks or less.

  105. My shihpoo is 5 1/2 months old and is not potty trained. She can hold it for 2 to 3 hours. I will take her outside often and most of the time she holds it until we get inside. She pees in her kennel, in her bed and picks up her poop and puts it in her bed and lays on it! Yuck! When we got her at 8 weeks of age she had parvo and almost died. She ate her poop for quite a long time before quitting. The vet thought it was because she needed the nutrients after being so sick! Any ideas for training! I will stand outside with her for 30 min. to an hour and nothing!
    Thanks for your suggestions!
    Allison

  106. Hi,

    It seems there is quite the controversy here! I have an 11 week old puppy who has to be alone in the bedroom for 8 hours a day while I go to work. I have decided to set up his crate (which with training he sees as a safe place to go to) inside an exercise pen, with pee pad and little box for a toilet while I am away. As well as a bunch of toys; some to chew, some with treats, some stuffies and one large stuffy about his same size to mimic a litter mate. I also have plenty of water for him to drink at his leisure, but it is in a bottle so he can’t get all soaking wet. I have a grass pee pad out on my balcony with regular pee pads underneath, and i spray the whole thing with an attractant spray and praise him like crazy when he goes on it. My situation is a little different in that I am actually trying to use the grass to train him to eventually go outside. He isn’t allowed outside yet (besides the balcony) because he is waiting to get his full set of shots and I live in a highly populated dog area so it is too risky yet. My goal is to not scold him when he messes inside OFF the regular pee pad, and also not praise him for going on it. But what I will do is praise him and give him treats (bathroom treats are different than training treats or “den” treats) and eventually when I can take him for walks, the concept of grass as a place to go bathroom isn’t too foriegn to him. That is one reason I like using the grass, as a transition into real grass for those puppies who aren’t allowed outside yet. Eventually I will phase out the fake grass completly and then tuck it away for unknown emergencies, like when he gets neutered and needs to recover indoors. Also, it should be noted that while he came from a breeder farm, him and his littermates were raised underfoot indoors mostly.

  107. My dog is 13 and only has three legs. She refuses her late night walk and after all she’s endured I think giving her a night time option is considerate, not lazy.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I am fostering an elderly black lab who can barely walk. She can’t go up and down stairs, and it is painful for her to be lifted. I can see how if I lived on a second floor apartment or higher, a product like this would be useful.

  108. You have a lot of valid points here, however I it leaves out all the in betweens. I have successfully indoor potty and outdoor potty train my Shih Tzu x Pekingese cross. The reason why I resorted to litter box (astro turf instead of litter) was out of worry for her larger than normal spay incision due to a umbilical hernia repair. Since we live at the top of a 3 story building and it was -50C freezing outside, I thought it would be too much stress on her body as she healed. It was a lot of work the first 2 days, but the moment she tried it out, she was trained. It took a couple more days for her to get her aim right, but after that she was fully trained. I always took her out first and only used her litter box as a backup for unexpected long days or extreme weather. As long as you keep taking them outside, they build up a preference for the outdoors since it is more stimulating and interesting. Now that my pup is older, she would rather hold it in than use the litter box, lol. Sometimes I wish she didn’t, but at least she’s housebroken now. I understand very well when you mention dog owners being lazy. My boyfriend abuses the litter box to no end, and put it out instead of taking out for a quick pee let alone a walk. He think that’s enough care to provide to the pup, I think not, lol.

    Also a quick comment about dogs lifting their legs. I think it really depends on the dog. Some absolutely must lift their legs up to a vertical object to pee, but some would do a combo squat and lift their leg slight on flat surface as well. Some male dogs never learn to lift their legs and squat just like females. So I would think if you fake grass trained a dog from the beginning, the best way to use it. (My pup usually likes to run back and forth right before she poops, but when she uses the litter box she will spin in it and then take a poop.)

  109. “Dogs are naturally filthy.” “They are careless, they roll in things and they eat garbage, dead animals and poop.” Really? Why do you have a dog (clearly a cat lover)? My dog has never gone into may garbage even with bones and food in it. He has never eaten poop, nor has he eaten a dead animal. I live in the city and there are plenty of dead rats around. I’ve seen cats eat dead animals. Plus, cats walk on their poop and pee in the litter box then jump on your bed/couch and worse on your kitchen counters where you prepare your food. Now what is filthy???

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      They are both filthy, in my opinion. All animals are. We love them anyway. I love cats and dogs, both are quite disgusting. I own both.

  110. I agree with the comments made by everyone here. Pets aren’t the problem…people are. Pets only know what we teach them so if they pick up a bad habit it is because either the owner doesn’t know how to properly train the puppy/dog, (the owner is not making it clear to their pet what exactly it is that they require from them.) I see nothing wrong with using a potty patch. And it’s very true that using one doesn’t make you lazy. You do have to keep it clean. Taking them out to pee is much easier. Diligence is key, and that alone takes much work. I myself have had a change in circumstances and am contemplating the conundrum as to how I will retrain my 8 year old, well trained yorkie, to pee on a pad or patch.
    We all love our pooches and want only what is best for them, while meeting our needs as well.
    Great comments everyone.

  111. I am disabled and cannot walk. I have a service dog, that while she has gets enough excercise, still needs something to potty on when I cannot go out. I was told the grass turf was the best option, but now I see so many against it. I do disagree that not all pet owners are lazy if they buy this, but what would you suggest?

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I think that if you truly need a place to let your dog relieve herself indoors or on a patio, then this is the best option. Only you know what is best for your situation.

  112. My dog is blind and incontinent. I can spend 20 minutes just trying to get him out the door to go walk. I use fake grass. Sorry for being a “lazy” pet owner

  113. I think I might try it!! Because I have had several dogs and with time, patience, and understanding I have been able to house train large, med., and small dogs until recently I have gotten a “dorkie” she is refusing to go outside. I will stand for 20 min outside and she wont go! She used to and I have praised and praised her. If I caught her in the house which I did several times I discouraged it! She stays in a crate for a total of 6 hrs a day and every 2 hrs to relieve herself. She now refuses to go at all outside and runs under a couch, table, chair, bed and hides to go and the second Im on my hands and knees to discourage it she runs off. So in this case I think it would be a great idea! I have a lhasa that is trained well and goes through a doggy door everytime he needs to go! I have crate trained all my dogs and it seemed to be the trick but wont work for her even if she does hold it the 2 hrs she wont go outside she will hide and go inside. Any suggestions other then using grass? Shes about 1.5 lbs an has no interest in even being outside nor a walk! hascase I think it would be a good Idea! I have a lhasa apso that . And and 2 hrs at time and brought out to relieve herself

    1. If you don’t mind me asking a few question, maybe I can offer some advice 😀 (I’m no expert though >.<)

      How old is your dorkie?
      How long since it has been since she last went potty outside?
      Have you moved recently or anything has changed (routine, people moving next door, raccoon invasion)?
      Is it possible something could of given her a traumatic scare?
      Where have you exactly taken her? And have you tried a variety of places and differ substrates?
      What steps have you already taken to try to get her to potty outside?
      Has she seen a vet recently?
      When you do catch her pottying inside, does she pee a lot? Little bit? Odd smells and color?
      Does she drink a lot or a little water?

      There are a few things you could try. For one thing, if you have been correcting her for going inside, stop. You can fuss, but don't try to unintentionally scare her off. You want her to rebuild her trust in you and get her comfortable pottying in front of you. If there is anything wrong with her, fear-wise, or her being sick she could be pottying inside because she feels safer inside. If it's just fear, try to get her liking going outside with lots of encouragement and fun. Perhaps a family of raccoons moved in nearby and she is frightened by their scent and presence. Something could just be "off" that is spooking her. If she has a infection or illness of any kind, take her to the vet and see if it's just a matter of making her feel better.

      I recently got a new puppy and for the life of him will refuse to pee outside at any cost. He would hold it in 11 hours at a time before finally having an accident or giving up and peeing outside (not happily though). After a couple of days what I found out was that the area I was taking him was too rough on his poor soft puppy paws, and he really like comfortable cushy grass. He's also really small (2.5 lbs when we got him), and didn't like remotely tall grass as well. Now that he's older, he doesn't mind the rougher stuff since his paws are building more endurance. Try taking your dog into different areas, different feels of dirt, grass, etc. Try taking her to a somewhat sheltered area if you can so she can feel more secure.

      Now if you've tried all those, and still having no luck, you have to resort to training. You can bring the outside in, or the inside out. You can certainly potty train her inside on pads or grass and gradually move her outside. You can mix in the scent of outside as you move her towards the door so she can associate the smell of outside with pottying. Or you can try to bring something she like to potty on already and put it outside to try to encourage her to potty. Make sure it's urine soaked or poopy that you put outside (could even just be the rag you clean up the accident with) and try to get her to remember potty is outside. Restrict her access to the house and put her back under puppy supervision with baby gates or play pens so she can't run off and hide to potty indoors (pen her with no furniture). When she does have an accident clean it up well with an enzymatic cleaner like Nature's Miracle to remove all of the scent. Next feed her, play with her, and have her bed right on top of the accident spot if possible. This will help her to realize that spot is not for potty. It'll take a while, but keep consistent and reward any progress no matter how little.

      Good luck! I hope things turn out well for you and your pup!

  114. #1 she doesnt want to go outside and she sleeps like 20 hrs a day……8 of them being at night ……I dont let her out then….just during the day.

    1. Sounds like she is fearful outside. If you keep her on a regular eating schedule, you should be able to plan when she will have to go to the bathroom and take her outside and reward her. Keep it positive.

  115. pretty poor article.. I rather my dog who is fully house trained have free range to walk around all day and pee on fake grass rather then sit in a cage all day.. even experts agree. perhaps you have a vendetta against a company lol

  116. I have it on my sundeck, and it works for my 55 lb male pit/lab mix!! It’s a godsend. He’s highly trainable, and can use the small dog potty grass without lifting his leg. I still have to supervise him, direct him to the right spot, and he happily complies.
    I only use it for emergencies, like if he needs to go at 11:00 pm, and it’s not safe to walk in the street at night, or if he had 2 AM diarrhea. I still walk him frequently, and for some reason, he doesn’t like to use it between 12 noon – 3 pm, because that’s when he’d rather be sunbathing on the deck, instead of peeing there. Then again, he’s not the average dog..

  117. I have a Morkie—lover her. Housebreaking was a joke. 6 months still not housebroken. Out down pee pads and she would go on them in one designated room. She is now 14 months. I got anew puppy about 1 month ago. Maltipoo. She is doing failrly well with housebreaking considering she just turned 3 months. I am attempting to housebreak BOTH dogs now at the same time. Morkie thinks all throw rugs are pee pads. HUGE mistake using pee pads in house. Only encouraged her behaviour. She won’t tell me when she has to go, she just goes. I walk her constantly. I even have a dog walker. I am crate training as dogs DO think that their kennels are dens and they really don’t seem to mind. They are never in them longer than 3 hours at a given time. I am frustrated with my Morkie but I am trying to be patient. I am basically starting from scratch. If I turn my back one second she will find a place to go so I can never leave her alone for ONE minute. The puppy doesn’t tell me yet when she has to go but I am assuming she is just to little yet. She was just three months on the 09/15. Yes I have the two worst breed dogs to housebreak. I know that. Any suggestions????

    1. Yes, keep them on leashes and near you at all times you are home. Take them outside to go potty at least every hour and reward. When you can’t supervise, keep them crated. Only allow them to be loose in a room with ou if they have gone to the bathroom outside within the last hour, but only have them in one room so you can closely supervise. Slowly increase that freedom as they are successful. Throw away all puppy pads and pick up all your rugs and mats temporarily.

      1. Not a good weekend with either of them. I did not pick up rugs as I did not check my email until this morning. Puppy-Molly had numerous accidents even though she is in same room with me and I walked her not even 15 minutes prior to her accidents. Clara-14 months had three accident that I know of even though she is walked every 45 minutes to an hour. Both dogs are constantly walked. And I mean constantly. Molly will squat as soon as she goes out and then squat two or three more times and then wait for her treat each time she squats.. I am beginning to think she is not eliminating as she will then pee 15 minutes after she comes inside. Clara the second and I know I am not suppose to turn my back for a second BUT I can’t even go out to make a cup of tea which takes 2 minutes and Clara will pee or poop. I hung a bell on the door in the room that is utilized the most and ring every single time we “go potty” but neither has caught on yet so they have no way to tell me they have to go unless I catch them sniffing or wakling around aimlessly. I am frustrated and if no improvement soon I will have no choice but to find a home for one of them. This is my last resort but honeslty my sanity is more important at this point in time. One dog is hard enough two is pure heck!! I am always outside I have no life at all. My neighbors even comment on how oftern I am outside with these dogs. I mean do I crate them more often then I am as when I am home I like them to be out with me but maybe it’s to much free time. Maybe they are getting to much free time. I take them for walks every single night for at least 45 minutes. They are small dogs after all. Clara last night went potty in her crate both pee and poop. Not fun anymore. I pick up water up 6:30. Molly seems to be thirsty all the time though. When I give her water you would swear she never had it before. Things have to get better and soon.

        1. One thing to keep in mind is that dogs won’t always tell you when they need to go out. My mutt Ace is a dog who has never asked to go out. He just holds it until I take him out. Keep your dogs on leashes literally tied to you or held by you whenever they are not kenneled. Or put the loop end of the leash under the leg of your chair. Keep them in your sight at all times unless they are kenneled or have just gone to the bathroom outside.

          1. Clara has been doing better. She tells me when she has to go outside now almost 85% of the time. But for other members of the household not so much. But they are not dilignet about watching her though either like I am. I keep her contained to whatever room I am in and never give her the chance to wander around as I do not trust her and won’t for a long time. Molly is 4 months old today and is not doing so well. She goes when I take her out but will then come in and go again. She is still little so I am following the “rules” like I did with Clara. But there are times I will take her out and she will come in and pee like 15 minutes later and I mean a flood!! I do not think she eliminates as much as she should when she is outside. I think she squats for her reward but doesn’t completely eliminate. So I need to somehow figure that one out. She ended up peein gon my bed last night and I was NOT happy at all because I had walked her 10 minutes prior. But she will hold it ALL night. So go figure!

  118. Crating dogs is not the answer, whats the point of having them in a family home and secluding one dog in a crate anyway. I bought my potty pad as I have a bichon who has issues with going on the lead. we have a garden at home and thats fine but what about when we go away (which we have been doing for years) then what do we do. We take htem in our camper and they love it but she has issues with peeing so sneaks around in the camper at night at night and does it. We have been away all weekend before and she holds it until we get back home. I really feel for her and to be honest I cant hold mine either for long and we have a toilet in teh camper. I really dont see the difference. I also have a puppy chihuahua and she too will be coming away. It will be hard at first for her to grasp it at night and this may help her. Sometimes the weather is so bad, like when we went to yorkshire and there were floods. How was my miniature dachsund supposed to wee when she was swmming in it. I think its cruel to expect them to hoild it or crate them. I agree this shouldn’t be used for general training but everything has its place in the market so perhaps you should consider all situations before you get on your high horse about a product.

  119. Hello-

    My reason to invest in this product would only be for my late nights. 2days a week at night on the patio. I live in a real bad skunk area and I would hate for her to get skunked. The flip
    side of this is, she’s fully trained to go outside, so I’m stuck. Trying not to get sprayed. Any help would be great. Thanks!

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I guess only you know what’s best for your situation. If you take her out on a leash at night, I would assume the skunks would just run away immediately. They’re generally fearful and will try to avoid humans and dogs, right?

      If not, then you could probably train her to use the patio. Do you have a command to get her to go to the bathroom? That would be useful for both getting her to go right away outside on a leash late at night or for training her to go on the patio if needed.

  120. Yes I do. “Go pot pot”… Lol- and she immediately go. Just this morning, my neighbor across the street pooch was skunked. He was under her patio. I usually jingle my keys before I step down the stair though. I tried to get her to go on the patio Monday. That was not what I expected. We ended up going outside.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Well best of luck to you no mater what you end up doing. Since you properly trained your dog to go outside, I am sure you would have no trouble teaching her to go on the patio, if that’s what you decide to do. Yikes, I am glad we don’t have an issue with skunks!

  121. me and my bf got a puppy in july it is now oct. she is 7 months and we have tried everything to potty train her, got expert advice and nothing works she still goes in the house. she will sometimes go outside but its like 2 times a week. and winter is right around the corner so advice given to us was that if we couldnt get her decently potty trained before there is snow, to try a grass mat, because is she wont go outside now she wont go when there is snow out. we are moving into an apartment in 2 weeks, and we have a balcony, we were told to get a grass mat and put it on the balcony, work at getting her trained to go on that, then in the spring start again training on real grass. yes she will still be walked everyday, i wouldnt say everyone that uses this method is lazy, there is many situations where i think this method would be helpful. thats just my opinion.

  122. I like fake grass... (outside)

    Hello,

    I put fake grass outside, I walk the dog twice a day and at the weekend we easily cover 50 + miles… We have a very small garden which had a lovely mix of grasses and wildflowers, the garden was quickly ruined (or over used) by the dog running around playing with her honking Pheasant toy… The grass soon turned into a muddy mess… Only leaving the larger bushes/hedges around the edges untouched.

    We didn’t at first want to go for fake grass, mainly because we were worried Bella would chew the grass, we went for the longest pile, which looks amazingly real, Bella doesn’t chew it, and treats it no different to real grass.

    Its very cleanable, thou she hardly uses it for toilet duties due to walking her out and about to go to the loo… and i don’t have to get rid of the mud between her feet. We’ve found it nice not to have specific “filling the bird feeder up trainers” by the back door too 🙂

    if we were using it to keep the dog confined in the grounds of our house then I’d agree fully, but in the garden (20m squared) it has been amazing for both 🙂

  123. Lindsay Stordahl

    Chris,

    Clara might be marking outside and not actually relieving herself. If she does pee for more than a few seconds, make sure to give her a good reward. I would keep putting her back in her kennel when she comes in and taking her out every half hour or so.

    1. Lindsey,

      I spoke to my vet about Molly and how she will go out squat and pee a little then come inside and 15 minutes later pee again. He is telling me I am walking them way to often that I should at this point only be walking her like every 2 hours or longer not every 30 minutes like I have been. But he did not elaborate as to how to remedy this issue. I guess I should be putting her in the kennel? I just don’t want her associating me taking her outside and her thinking she IS doing her business then bringing her back in and kenneling her. She does squat one or two times but never eliminating all the way. I do give her treats also each time and she acutally waits for the treats. If I give her a substancial amount of water that is when she will go out and pee but then come back in and seriously pee a flood!!! But she seems so thirsty!!! She rarely pees in her kennel if ever. I sometimes think she gets so excited about the treat to come that she rushes herself and I am wondering if I should stop giving her treats at this point. I know a few people I work with said they never gave their dogs treats for eliminating.

      1. Lindsay Stordahl

        Try the vet’s advice. Take her out every two hours or so and walk for longer and then put her in the kennel when you can’t watch her or if you think she is likely to pee on the floor. Maybe just give her treats when she pees for more than a few seconds.

  124. After having to put down my 18 1/2 year old Chihuahua 2 years ago
    I’m now ready to adopt another dog.
    I miss her so much an I know I cannot ever replace her……..
    I’m fixing to adopt two dogs that are at a pound.
    They both were chained to a chain link fence in the middle of the night during a very bad thunder storm.
    So they both are traumatized but still very loving.
    One is a Terrier & the other a Poodle.
    I’m waiting for them to be neutered before I can adopt them.
    I know they are going to have to be potty trained.
    I have a happy loving home they will have for sure………
    What is the best approach with them with what all they have been through should I use the crate train method?

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I would start with the crate training method unless, since they have never been in a crate, they become very terrified and try to bust out. If that is the case, maybe you can try keeping them in a small room or at least a bedroom. You will probably have some difficulties since they are not used to indoor life, but just be patient.

  125. I am the proud owner of a Chihuahua and I wouldn’t trade him for the world. I have been considering buying the puppy patch for him because although he will go outside all spring, summer & fall he refuses to go outside when it is raining or when there is snow on the ground. I stay at home so I am there to take him out all the time. I do not consider myself a lazy owner for considering other options for him during the winter months. I think if the patch works & keeps him from going in the house it will not only save my carpet but also a lot of undue stress on him as well. I think before you call people lazy and accuse them of neglecting their pets you should consider that having a patch inside will require more work of them to keep it clean. I have consulted my vet on several occasions for solutions to keeping a pet house broken when they refuse to go out during the winter months and he suggested the patch to me. I agree that there may be a lot of people out there that do not properly care for their pets but lumping everyone together just because we buy a patch of fake grass for our dogs is not only unfair but it just makes no sense to me at all.

    1. I have to be honest as I myself am considering using one for bad weather months. My Clara—Yorkie/Maltese who is only 5.5 pounds HATES the wet grass and will not pee. It is a battle every single time it rains. I am considering putting the grass pad outside in our carport though so she still sees that we are going outside, but yet it will be covered during the rain and snow we get here in the Northeast. I have not decided 100% yet but we are expecting that bad hurricaine the next few days so I may buy it tomorrow and see how it works. I am not going to put it inside though as I fought that battle and am still dealing with the aftermath. I appreciate though anyone who does have health issues or has small dogs like I do as it is so hard for them to want to go out in the bitter cold, rain or snow. And who knows she may not like it as she is a very stubborn dog!!!!

      1. My chi mix is the same way but who can blame them? When you’re a big dog, you’re standing in wet grass. When you’re little and standing ankle deep in water….

        I was looking for a more eco friendly solution for the winter months and was shocked to find out that I’m lazy for considering this even though my chi runs a mile every day (a mile out of the 8 miles we go lol.) He would rather pee on himself at the back door than go outside when its cold/wet

  126. Tina I agree with how you feel The vet & the pound have sad to try the patch to me as well.
    I stopped smoking 2 years ago an then had a heart attacked so I can’t breath good enough to go on long walks.
    That is why I was thinking of the patch for my bad breathing days.
    And even though I can’t breath good.
    I am still a neat freak it just takes be a lot longer to get it all done…..
    I don’t think that all people whom use these patches are lazy…….

    Advices on your Chihuahua when it was raining or snowing mine didn’t go out either she would try to hold it.
    So I trained her to go on a pee pad at the back door.
    And when it was good weather I never had the pee pad down.
    She was smart as most dogs are they know what we want them to do because we show then over & over……
    And healthy treats don’t hurt them either……….
    Love & Prayers Lynn

  127. I agree with you 100%.

    I’m sorry but Puppy Pee Pads are not ecologically responsible…..and people do not use a good cleaner/deodorant on those grass pads.

    I’ve living in walk-ups and had to trot the dog downstairs (sometimes flights) to go potty and yes, it’s exhausting but the dog learned to:
    1) tell me when they had to go—for REAL! (not “I want to go outside so I can chase Evil Squirrel”).
    2) go quickly, then praise, treat, walk or play time
    3) eventually learned to go pretty much on command, which helped a lot on walks, at training classes, in a home situation.

    I personally am a huge proponent of all good things happen AFTER you pee/poop and yes, I crate my dogs. If I know my day is going to be longer than 6 hours, I have several trusted friends/neighbors who can let them out.

    If you have a balcony or back porch and it’s raining as it is now, with flooding….maybe as a temporary solution. MAYBE. But I almost think you would be better (if it’s concrete), letting them go right on the cement and then spraying a good deodorant as they use in a good kennel to clean it after every use.

    Thank you!

  128. i think that everyone has their own set of problems and that no one way is going to work for everyone. i have severe fibromyalgia which limilts me outdoors, i have chronic fatigue and a lot of pain but i still do things with my dog. my partner walks our dog in the morning but she won’t go, comes back to house and then does her ‘business’. most of the time if we tie her to an indoor lead she will do it on the pee pads. i don’t like it but my health and the fact that she is a small dog and doesn’t always feel comfortable going outside especially in crappy weather, pee pads or astroturf are a blessing. sometimes she’s even stubborn with that! i wish i could get her to go quickly outside but she’s 6 months and we’ve had her 1 and 1/2 months and still won’t go outside-maybe its not going to happen now with winter coming up. she’s also very stubborn and can hold it a long time. i have been thinking of trying astroturf but it is very expensive and i have concerns about keeping it clean. how does one clean astroturf? and a small opinion, don’t judge people till you’ve walked in their shoes. thats it!

    1. Hi Keri!

      I have a young pup as well, 5 ish months. Usually he’ll take a little while to go potty outside, but now that it’s been getting colder and colder, he’s been less willing. Litter box (with astroturf) training was an ordeal with him, but now that it’s colder, he’s been so happy just jumping in doing his business in there instead of trying to go outside and shivering his bum off, haha.

      If you plan to go the astroturf route, it actually isn’t that expensive. There are usually different types of astroturf, some pretty inexpensive. I was unlucky and had to get the slightly expensive stuff (they were all out of the cheap stuff), but it still was just around $10 at Rona. I was able to cut 7 pads out with lots of astroturf left over. If you compare to having to buy pee pads, in the long run, the astroturf saves a lot of money. I line my litter boxes with newspaper I get free from the corner, mail, and at school. (Oh and remember to punch holes in the astroturf so the urine can drain down. I recommend getting those 3 part litter boxes with 2 solid trays and 1 grid tray)

      For cleaning, I personally just rinse them with water really well and hang dry them. Once one is used, I just switch them out. I’m still training the new pup, so I like to keep some of the scent left on the astroturf. About once a month (is around the time they start to get noticeably smelly) I do a thorough clean and disinfecting. I fill my bathtub (or a bucket if you want), with as hot water as my faucet can put out and mix in some bleach and a little bit of dish washing soap. I let the astroturf soak for at least 10 minutes (more usually) and then give them a good scrub and rinse. I do the same with the litter boxes as well.

      If your dog does really well, you can move the litter box to the tub. I have another dog I have successfully liter box trained, she is about a year now. I can plop her in the tub with the grid portion of the litter box and she’ll do her business. Her urine just drains down and I rinse with it away. It’s like her own personal toilet. She prefers to go outside, but when the weathers really bad out or it’s too late for a stroll she goes in the tub. I do recommend still taking your pup outside to give her the opportunity to potty outdoors. I have met a couple of dogs who refuse to go potty outside and will only go in their litter boxes. It makes it difficult to go anywhere and travel for a long period of time.

      Good luck!

  129. My puppy Bentley is about 12 months. He’s a Yorkie. I first began training him on puppy pads. Currently my fiance’ and I stay in an apartment, 3rd floor. I usually sit the pad outside from him to go, which he does very well. However, the problem I have is that sometimes, he misses the pad. Like his front paws are on the pad, but his backside misses it. Sometimes he will pee completely on the pad though. And also, he RARELY poops on the pad. He’ll poop on the patio and I try to stay patient with him and teach him but he’s not getting the point.

    Any advise?

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      Sorry to hear you are having troubles with your dog. I normally suggest people to stop using puppy pads and fake grass and to train the dog to go outside. Below is a link with tips on how to potty train a puppy. If you decide to keep using the pads, you can still use a similar method by taking the dog to the pad every time instead of the grass.

      Have you tried leaving out two or three pads to make the “area” larger for him?

      http://www.thatmutt.com/2009/08/25/dog-housetraining/

  130. Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt have a clue. To state leaving a dog in a yard for 12 hours is same as chaining up then to go on and recommend crating proves the writer has no integrity on the subject.

    To ASSUME that the owner will walk the dog less is ignorant and based on what?

    I know plenty people who have used this and it works for whatever reason they need. Be it to keep the dog mess confined to a certain area or to give dog somewhere to go when in say apartment. As for males yes you can place a pot plant or some other upright for him to lift his leg on, such as you will see around some public dog toilets they use old or fake fire hydrants.

    Just do what works for you and so long as your pet is cared for and happy then its all good.

  131. I can understand the good points as well as the bad ones as to whether or not to get fake grass pads for your dog. Personally though, I have epilepsy and have a few seizures a week and am not allowed to drive. I live in a second floor apartment and animals are not allowed so openly walking him outside is out of the question as well as driving to a dog park, but I’ve done so much research about dogs being very therapuetic to people with my condition. He is a 9 week old miniature dachshund And so far so good, but the point of this comment really is to state that if its only going to be a temporary thing (the grass pads I mean), I think it’s a good idea to get the dog used to going in the grass be it fake or not until I have a real yard of my own for him. Oh and a cheap area rug to go underneath it is a good idea as well. Since he is so young it has been relatively easy to train him to go on the pads without having to dicline him at all. The occasional point followed by a semi loud “no”, but never popping him or putting his nose it is. That’s pretty cruel. Maybe I just got a smart dog, but he seems very happy which makes me happy. Oh and word of advice….if you don’t have the patients to train your dog, spend time with them, and clean up after them then you obviously have no business having one. They really are just like having children.

    1. I disagree.
      I have successfully trainined our Pug in a few short months and it has been 2 years.
      Artificial grass works a treat.
      The dog has not slipped up once. She gets plenty of exercise, she never eats her own poop, even the male Pug doesn’t lift his leg.

      It is about countless hours of watching the dogs behaviour, picking it up straight away, reinforcing good behaviour and repetitiion, repetition. The dogs come down stairs any time of the day or night to poo and pee in the same spot.

      Piss mats work a treat!

      And I encourage people to try it for themselves..

      1. Shut up! Why would you be lame in a world where it is prohibited? Why? Why? Why? There are a million reasons why? You are probably that sad, evil person who is the president of their HOA and watches everyone to make sure everyone follows “The Rules”. And you have that deep seeded resentment for all mankind… your mantra is….Why should other people get away with things when I don’t? Blah, blah, blah. Shut up! (p.s. For the record, I have a huge yard, pristine home and live in luxury, but there was a time when I didn’t and I rescued two dogs and all we had was a balcony…so for those readers who had to see your dumb comment…..SHUT UP and take a yoga class and stop judging people. Love, love love. : )

        1. Very well said… I used to have a parrots (1 Macaws, 1 Amazon) and they LOVED to be sprayed with a hose during hot summer – FLORIDA days… So I would take them outside in my driveway to do this. One day I get a damn letter from HOA – telling me that I am not allowed to do that… WTF.. I sold that house and moved the hell out of there. I will NEVER BUY AGAIN in a place that has HOA.

  132. I was thinking of getting fake grass to put out on the porch outside so my pug puppy didn’t have walk through the snow because she hates the snow. Would it be better and try some puppy boots or something. I don’t think she is going to keep them on.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      You will have to do whatever seems best for your situation. Personally, I would prefer to just shovel a path through the snow. You could try some dog booties. Most dogs hate them at first, but then they get used to them. If you go that route, get a pair that is as lightweight as possible. The heavier they are, the more difficult they are for the dog to accept.

  133. My dog is a shih-tzu and will soon be 14. He has been showing signs of Cushing disease and his adrenals are enlarged per an ultrasound at the vet.
    Though I don’t think his case is severe enough to warrant medication (yet), the increased peeing is starting to get more and more and more, so I thought about the fake grass. only because as a student and having a FT job, I am beginning to not be able to function on 3-4 interruptions a night with 90 mins to 2 hour ‘naps’ all night long. What’s your thought on this? Has anyone mentioned the scenario when they have a dog with Cushing disease?

    1. Charlie, I was in a similar situation last year. My JRT was 15, with chronic liver failure that resulted in increased urine production and increased frequency. She also was entering dementia and constantly begging to be let outside- like every 30 minutes. I wouldn’t have minded if we lived in a house with a yard, but we were on the fourth floor of an apartment building-with a balcony. Here is what I did: I built my own “potty patch” with real grass. I know its crazy- and everyone looked at me like I was crazy when I was getting supplies. I basically made a drainage system just like how the potty patch and other brands use, except I added a layer of rocks, soil, and then sod on top. It basically was like having a 3×4 grass garden on my balcony. Urine would flow through the grass, through the rocks, into the drainage catcher that had a hose connected and capped off. To “rinse it” I watered it thoroughly with the hose uncapped and inside a bucket that I just dumped down a shower drain-rinsed with soapy water of course. The grass turned brown from urine burn every now and then and I replaced it with a new square of sod. This way when she cried to go out to pee over and over throughout the night- I could wake up and take her to the balcony, let her pee, and go back to bed until it happened again. I didn’t have to put on a coat and boots and go down the elevator etc. We only ended up using it for about 3 months but it was one of the smartest weekend projects I ever did, even if it does sound excessive!

    2. I meant to add that while my “real grass potty patch” was located on the balcony, it could easily be adapted for use indoors if you get creative. I feel your stress, I was a full time student at the time too- and it was a lot to handle when my best friend needed to pee all night.

  134. Hi Lindsay

    What do you think of fake grass in an outdoor dog run on the shaded side of a house? I have a client that wants to either put concrete or gravel and I thought the fake grass would at least be a softer place for a dog to lay down. Thanks.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I guess the only thing I would wonder about would be cleaning it. How easy would it be to clean, especially if the dog pees on it, and does this person want to spend time cleaning it?

      1. My dog is 3 mths old she was going on grass mat like clock work I cleaned it with vinegar realized that was a no no then purchased another one she did fine for a week now wants to go anywhere but the Matt. WHAT IS HER DEAL its like she is worse any advice she is a 3 pound dog

        1. Lindsay Stordahl

          She might be picky about the mat once it gets used, even though you are doing a good job cleaning it. Or she might not like the smell of the vinegar.

  135. My daughter and her husband live in a pet-friendly apartment house. Too friendly. Within three weeks of obtaining their chihuahua/toy fox terrier mix, the poor puppy contracted internal parasites and fleas. It’s been a warm November and the fleas are still an issue here in the northeast. I should note that the puppy would eliminate outdoors before sundown if the weather is warm and dry benough. But as soon as it’s too cold or dark, whether he’s in a coat or not, he stands and shivers. He is also fearful of strange, large dogs. So I got the potty patch fake grass to try. Problem solved. The puppy runs to the grass mat and does his business even during play! He “holds” both until I get to him in the middle of the day, then I place him on or call him to the grass mat and he goes readily with no distractions. The puppy and his accessories (including the fake grass) and surroundings are all kept very clean. I think this also makes a difference.

    What’s best for the dog is key. For this puppy at this time, and for this situation, this is the best solution.

    At my house, where access to our yard is much easier, the puppy will go outside, readily finding his spot on his own and hurrying back to the door when he’s done. We plan to phase out the fake grass mat next summer when the couple is able to move into a house; otherwise for the health of the puppy, we will probably decide the grass mat should stay until a cleaner,safer outdoor environment is available.

  136. Artificial Grass San Diego

    I really am not the most animal-lover person on Earth (the only animal that I would care for is a fish because it does not make frumpy sounds and does not wake you up at night) but I think that just like kids, animals have the right o experience what its like in the outdoors, especially playing on natural turf. It’s like you’re getting rid of their right to play. So no matter what, I still want my dogs (if ever I decide in the future which I highly doubt) to play outside, plus, he will be like my exercise buddy so we gain both from the experience.

  137. To me there’s many pros and cons to the fake grass. I have a 3lb yorkie and he goes outside to do his business but for times where it’s too cold or super rainy out he will go on his fake grass. He doesn’t do his duty everywhere in the house and prefers going outside. He doesn’t roll in his poop and pee, or eat it. He doesn’t kick it everywhere and does not lift his leg to pee on the wall either. Every dog is different. The fake grass has NOTHING to do with laziness, for me anyway cause I bring him outside every chance that I get and even though he has the fake grass, I still walk him and I still will not leave him for longer periods of time or treat it as though it’s a litter box and he’s a cat. He gets plenty of exercise, and plenty of attention. The fake grass is just a backup for really bad weather days. I also clean it regularly so it doesn’t smell. I personally love the fake grass. It’s convenient.

  138. There was something that came on the market 15 years ago called PetWiz, for pets to do their business on. It is a plastic shaped curved mat with a grate on top. While it wasn’t perfect, I modified it and it did the job for me. My dog has never had to hold her pee and is now 15 years old and still pretty healthy for a dog that age. I must say that while I agree with some of your points, the fact is there ARE people who have dogs, who can’t always be home for them or are too busy to cater to their schedule 24/7 for 10+ years. It doesn’t mean they don’t love them or care about them. It simply means that they are busy.

    Dogs are somewhat like babies who never grow up – in that respect – and a huge responsibiity, as well. Many dogs are abused, because they ARE left for long periods of time and either hold their bladders for too long, BECAUSE of such ‘excellent’ training, or because they will be punished for going on the carpet – EVEN IF they have been left too long. That ISN’T going to change.

    The bottom line is this. For people like you, who are committed to your dog in every way and are willing to stay on a schedule with him/her for however long that dog may live – that’s wonderful. The problem is that there are many people who have dogs and simply don’t have the time or can’t always be there, yet they still love them and are providing a good home and shelter, otherwise. Sadly, there are more of these people than there are of you, and something like Pet Grass can be such a relief to have, when one is running late, or whatever the case may be.

    In a perfect world, people would be on a perfect schedule with their animals, having chosen to do so, but we all know that is not the case. We do what we have to do to make things work and life for pet owner and dog is not wrapped up in a neat little package. Life happens in between.

    So what I say is this. We could decide that people who do not have that constant daily vested time to be there for their dogs, but that hasn’t happened so far and is not going to happen any time soon. Therefore, the next best thing is to make sure your dog never has to feel as though there is nowhere for them to eliminate, should there be trouble for you to get home in time or whatever the case may be.

    The fact is that perhaps there are many people with dogs who shouldn’t have them, simply because they don’t have the time, but they do anyway – so why not make life easier for both of them? I have a theory that my dog is still here, simply because she’s been able to eliminate when she’s needed to – just as people do. She’s never been constipated or had bladder infections. I’ve taken her to the vet 5 times in her whole life. Am I lucky – or is there something to this? Food for thought – at least.

    1. That should have read

      ‘We could decide that people who do not have that constant daily vested time to be there for their dogs *should not own them*.

  139. Although this is a website of reasons why not to buy fake grass for dogs to use, I need one for my patio. He doesn’t like going on the plain, concrete floor and it’s a big trouble if we have to leave and don’t have time to walk him. He refuses to go outside the patio to release, I don’t know why, probably because it has no grass or plants around in it. So, if I bought a Potty Patch, would it solve my problem? I’ll be placing the Potty Patch outside in the patio, not indoors. I need a resolution.. Any suggestions? Thanks.

    1. I think it would work just fine. Each week move the Potty Patch a little closer to the desired area you want him to relieve himself, once the Potty Patch is in the desired location, leave it there for a while, then remove it. Your dog should run straight to that spot without the Potty Patch and take care of business.
      Hope this helps!

    2. No here is another situation. I
      Have a very Smart standard poodle who was housebroken the by
      9 weeks old to going
      On my AstroTurfed large enclosed
      Yard. She is a year old now
      And has never peed outside that area. I
      Am trying to Get her to
      Use the natural
      Areas around house and still has not relieved herself other then on the AstroTurf . It is a huge issue because I
      want to take her on arias trip. Any suggestions to resolve this?

      1. I feel like this topic is WAY to dependent on the situation to make these kinds of statements. My dog is FULLY potty trained. However we are moving to a top floor of a high rise and there is no way my dog is going to hold every single potty break every single day. Accidents in the public spaces of my building are an inevitability that I will not accept. So I chooose to use faux grass on our balcony. These judgy, holier then thou articles ignores all the reasons in which most of us have no other choice. And how dare anyone make the assumption that all faux grass users are lazy oofs who won’t walk their dogs.

  140. The reason why I’m considering buying a fake grass thing is because the neighborhood we live isn’t that great n also my husband works nights. I’m afraid to take my 3dogs (2 which r puppies that r being potty trained) out that long at night alone.

    1. i to fear late nite walks since i was followed by a pack of coyotes one night. did you know that dogs are allowed off leash in central park in NYC because it helps keep the crime down.

  141. I would have to disagree. I have a chihuahua puppy that took right to the “fake grass” the very first day I brought it home, and I didn’t have to spray anything on it to attract her to it. She mainly uses it when I’m at work and at night instead of waking me up to go out. She is also learning that she would rather go outside than use the fake grass. I will admit that on rainy days she prefers the indoor “dry” grass rather than the wet outdoor grass.
    As for your statement, “If the owner can’t train her dog to go to the bathroom outside…how will she train her dog to pee on fake grass? This will only encourage the dog to pee on carpet, rugs, couches and mattresses.” This is not true either. My puppy has NEVER peed or pooped on furniture. Yes, when I first got her she did pee and poo on the carpet and floor, but I have learned that dogs will pee and poo on anything that the owner allows them to continue to soil on, they see it as an acceptable place “to go” if the owner allows it.
    Personally, I love the fake grass. When I’m at work and during the night she uses it without fail. And the cotton, or whatever they are made of, pee pee pads are not an option…she chews them up! Fake grass is a blessing, without it she would do her business on the hardwood floors and ruin them! I’m sure there are some cons to it, but I haven’t encountered any yet.

    1. Jamie,

      I agree! I have a 6 month old chihuahua and she took to the fake grass almost immediately. All puppies have a few accidents but mine adapted pretty well. She loves running to her potty when she wakes up in the morning. I still let her in the yard and walk her frequently. She is a well- rounded dog who can go inside or out and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    2. I 100% agree with you. I love my fake grass pad. My dogs took to it right away as well. And though my youngest still uses it whenever I take her to the backyard (our yard is all concrete, another reason why this was a great investment) , my older dog is preferring real grass now and will hold it until we take her on our daily walks. Much like your chihuahua she hates going potty on wet grass too! So we will move the fake grass to a dry area in our backyard so she can still do her business. The fake grass is an amazing training tool. We used to have to take our dogs outside to the front at nighttime when it’s dark and coyotes are roaming, but now we can let them outside whenever they need to out back and they will go. (:

    3. Hi I agree with all u have seein u comment , I also have a puppy chihauhau who is now 8 months old she uses her fake grass pad all the time and has done since I got her , she is very good so I find the product a very useful tho g , even wen I wake her it let her out she will it go outside she waits til she gets home , I dint care what other people say and think as long as she clean n does it on pad I’m happy .

  142. I have actually trained our puppy to use the Potty Patch on our deck after training him to go outside because #1 our backyard is incredibly muddy. #2 he does not do well in the cold rain here in Seattle and #3 I worry about the coyotes in our neighborhood (and yes I put him on a leash but the coyotes around here are pretty brazen). When I discovered the potty patch even existed I was thrilled. Now Oliver can do his business on our deck when the weather is bad and/or it is dark outside. So for us, the Potty Patch has been a lifesaver.

  143. My daughter has a tiny teacup chihuahua and is unable to care for her now due to a break up and long work hours so I now have her. She goes to the bathroom outside just fine but she gets cold so fast and sometimes won’t finish her business even when I stay out with her for 15 mins and walk around on no snowy areas. She has had 2 accidents inside because of this issue, not because she is not let out or taken for a walk 4 times a day. I live in a building on the 4th floor and have now gotten her the fake grass pad and keep it on the balcony so she can still associate bathroom business with the outdoors. I will let her go there until the snow is gone and the warmer weather comes along. So in my case it does serve a very good purpose, but it will not be her permanent bathroom place (only winter). I agree dogs need to be socialized and walked in the fresh air and do what dogs do outside.

  144. I have a 2 yr old rescue dog that was neglected in his first home. Apparently, he was locked in his old owner’s basement for long periods of time. As a result, my dog has learned that it is ok to go to the bathroom in the basement. I only work part time so my dog is never left alone for long periods of time. I let him out frequently, play with him in the yard and walk him. He never will poop in the yard. The minute I go to work or fall asleep at night, he sneaks into the basement and poops multiple times. We have no door to our basement so I bought a baby gate. He figured out how to slip through the bars of our railings. I bought him a crate, he figured out how to open it on the second day. I guess I could tie the crate shut but I’m worried about him hurting himself trying to bust out. I don’t know what to do anymore. I was thinking about the grass patch only because I’m out of options. Does anyone have any ideas of advice? Thank you!!

    1. So sad about your pup and his past experience 🙁 But good for you for rescuing him! What I would do is figure out a way to keep him from busting out of his crate. Maybe buy a heavy duty lock or something to keep the door from opening. My little puppy goes MENTAL trying to get out of his crate. He has scratched at the metal bars so hard that the paint has come off. Ugh. Prior to my puppy we had a big lab who would also do the same. Crate training in my opinion is a wonderful way to teach (or re-teach) a dog where you would like for him/her to relieve themselves because they will hold their bladder which is to your advantage when potty training. I hope that helped you ♥

        1. Lindsay Stordahl

          I agree with Monica. The crate is such a good tool for housebreaking or re-housebreaking a dog. Or what about leaving the dog in a bathroom or bedroom? Will he have accidents there?

          I would also recommend long walks so he is more likely to go to the bathroom outside. Reward! Reward! Reward!

          And of course, stick to a schedule so he eats at the same time every day and you can more easily predict when he has to go.

    2. yes, i suggest the doggie grass in the basement. What a wonderful loving and patient person you are for rescuing this poor dog. What you are doing to encourage your dog to go outside is perfect. I feel bad he is holding it until you are asleep but it shows that he wants to please you. Just keep trying to teach him to poop outside. I would take some of his poop from the basement and put it outside. Don’t let him see you doing this, but next time he goes out, his poop will just be there and maybe he will get the idea. Never let him see you clean up after him in the basement or he might get the idea that is okay. I would get the grass for downstairs and hopefully when he sneaks down there he will use it and make it easier for you to clean up. Maybe it will even help him realize that he should use the grass outside and once he does u can eventually remove the grass from the basement if you feel it isn’t a good thing. Personally i see nothing wrong with it or harmful at all. If it makes it easier then use it. I have to thank you for what you are doing with this dog…the world needs more people like you in it. You are appreciated.

  145. Hi all:
    While I agree that most doggies do not get enough exercise or are allowed to experience enough dog/human interaction, my situation is different relative to the fake grass patch.
    My Abby is an 18.5 year old mixed breed. She has had a wonderful life with us and her buddy who passed away 2 years ago at the age of 16 years. She is physically in amazing shape…sleek, shiny, great appetite, very,very few accidents and still loves long walks in the woods.
    Our problem is that she will not allow anyone besides me, my hubby or my daughter near her to hook on the leash to take her out. This is a recent development which we attribute to her failing hearing and eyesight….age in general. We had a puppy sitter coming in at lunch time but he gave up his business and so we were forced to look for someone else. We hired a darling lady but Abby would have no part of it. We are talking fear here….not billigerence. And, at this stage in her life, I will not put her at risk nor will I risk her biting or snapping at someone else. So, we are going to try the fake grass patch. Our plan is to have our buidling super (we live in a condo) come in and open the patio door to the deck where the patch will be (the deck is small and secure)…he can then leave and come back in an hour or so to close the door.
    I see absolutely nothing wrong with choosing the method most comfortable for Abby at this juncture. I will not crate her….never have…never will.
    I really hope this works. It will be far less trauma for Abby and,hence, peace of mind for us.
    Anyone who has any suggestions, please feel free. And thanks for reading this.
    Lucy

    1. I hope it works! Good luck, and I hope Abby has many happy days ahead. This is probably an option I would consider as well if I were in the same situation and couldn’t get home often enough to take her outside.

  146. Maybe my ‘ at least my dog has a home’ is a poor excuse for leaving my dog home alone for 9 hours every day but you do what you have to. The dog belonged to my elderly Mother. She’s gone but I promised her I would give the dog a home. Your one sized fits all problem solving doesnt work for everyone in the real world. Yes he’s a pain in the ass and wets on my hard woods every day and they are ruined. But I wont break a promise to my dying Mother.

    1. Another dog owner

      Can you keep your promise by “giving the dog a good home” in someone else’s home? Ie, find a good new owner. Sounds like you really don’t want the dog.

    2. Dog Owner,

      Sadly, you are not doing the dog any favors and sadly, you are not fulfilling your mother’s dying wish with altruistic honor. No doubt your mother loved her dog, and wished for him to have a happy, loving, healthy home where he’s part of the family, gets lots of attention, is socialized, exercised and receives love.

      Are you “doing what you have to do” for the dog’s sake, your mother’s sake, or for your own sake? We, as responsible pet owners, must do what’s best for the pet involved. Ask yourself this: If you mother could see how her dog is being taken care of (and regarded), would she be sad for her dog? If the answer is yes, please consider finding him a new home.

      It’s a miserable life for a dog to be lonely and unwanted, regardless of whether the owner has good intentions or not. Perhaps I’ve read your post wrong, but what I gleaned from it is that you don’t really care for the dog all that much, but begrudgingly keep him because your mother asked you to give him a good home. Do you feel resentful that you feel forced to keep him due to a promise you made your Mom? If so, do you think your Mom would be sad to know that and would not want to burden you with such feelings?

      As a professional pet sitter/dog walker, I’ve seen more than my fair share of heartbreaking situations, and this sounds like one of them. I’m willing to bet your mother would understand and be content with your decision to do what’s best for her dog.

      Your mother will not love you any less. In fact, she probably will smile with joy that her caring, selfless, thoughtful child made her proud by finding her beloved dog a home where he will be as happy as she intended him to be.

      Best of luck to you both.

      Kathi Howland
      Girl Friday Errand & Shopping Service

  147. I actually don’t agree with all of these, but that is only because my current situation doesn’t really relate to these.
    My pug puppy is 5 months old and we use potty pads for him because he can only go outside while being supervised because the backyard is no good for him. We have to take him into the front yard. He will sometimes use the potty pads and sometimes he will just go on the floor. However, he loves to potty on grass and dirt. As soon as he steps foot outside, he potties right away.
    He does not lift his leg, he has never eaten his poop off the pad or from outside, and he very clearly prefers the grass. He isn’t left at home alone for a long time, but he lives with my boyfriend and his parents (We are still young and live with our parents) and my boyfriend’s mom won’t take him outside to potty. So oftentimes he has to go potty indoors until we take him on his regular trip to the park when my boyfriend gets off work at around 4:00 pm. However, I can definitely see how your points can fit some situations. Also, I don’t know why some people got so offended by your post. It isn’t like they are being FORCED to take your tips. Have a good one!

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I had to laugh at your last sentence. It is funny how people get so offended by this. It’s just fake grass we’re talking about! Come on, people! 🙂

  148. I have a unique problem my dogs were use to a doggy door but for three months we live in a apt w no real outlet for walking. So we have a problem of doin their business, what can we do? We tried the patch thing that was a bust. Use pads, they kinda work. But not always. Help!

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I’m not sure I understand the problem. Is there no grass for them to pee on outside? Or are you dealing with a housebreaking problem?

  149. I have 2 dogs and have recently moved into a rental basement suite and am not allowed by the landlords to use their backyard because their kids play there. We had a backyard in the last 2 places we lived. Not glowing yards, but good for emergencies. I work from home and get my dogs out 3-4 times a day, often including hikes. Both of my dogs are adopted and one of them is an outright rescue. She has a lot of issues, including nervousness. Sometimes she won’t want to come out for our nightly walk but then will cry because she has to #2 in the middle of the night. Usually that’s when I’d get up and go in the backyard with her. We have stairs going down to our entrance and I was thinking of putting down some artificial grass for her emergencies and mine (I have a serious health condition). What I’d like to know is how receptive are dogs to this artificial grass? My dogs are 6 and 8, potty trained, leash trained, everything trained except for nervous behaviour that we’re rehabbing and working on. Will dogs automatically go on this artificial grass or will I have to train them to go on it? Also, on a side note, the article written about reasons to not use the grass mentions laziness. I’d like to add that crate-training is also a form of laziness and before the crate craze dog guardians were able to potty train and provide safe environments for their dogs for years.

  150. I personally LOVE the fake grass for my dog. I have a 6 month old min pin. I live on the fifth floor in my building that does not allow dogs, also there is no were around to take her out in my area. My dog was potty trained two days after I got her with potty mats. Problem was that the mats slide around and soak threw to the floor if she goes pee a lot.Also she would tear the mats apart clean or dirty, dragging it allover. I bought two grass potties for her and she loves them. I placed scented potty pads under the grass to absorb the urine so not to fill the bottom and spill it when cleaning it. I pick up the poo right away and clean the grass every two weeks. My dog still gets out to go on walks and the dog park, she does not eat her own poop and it was the simplest to train her on because she immediately used and the moment I laid it down and no problems since. The grass is a life saver for dog owners.

    1. I have a two pound puppy who is using “fake grass”. I am elderly and recently loss my husband. The miniature yorkie (6 weeks old) has helped me handle the loss of my husband. I love the “grass” but I do not know how to get rid of the odor. I do rinse it out every day. The vet told me I could not let her outside yet due to the fact she does not have her parvo shot yet. I plan on keeping her in the house and she plays with “movable” toys and is very active. I can not do “steps” so that is why she will be in the home most of the time. Would you know of a way to eliminate the odorl? I would appreciate this very much.

      1. Hi Dee,
        I hope you are doing ok after your husband’s death and that your puppy has become a fantastic best friend. I saw that no one answered your question because they were debating the merits of this article so I wanted to send my well wishes. Plus I had the same question too because I was wondering if I should get one or if it would be smelly!

  151. I think that this article is missing the point. I don’t know how many people would be using this product to stop taking their dog outside, but I don’t think that’s what most people would be using it for. I am currently raising a puppy in the winter of Wisconsin. The ground outside is usually covered in snow or a bunch of slop. It is always freezing outside. While I would love to have my puppy go potty outside it’s not really feasible right now. We are using potty pads, but when we take the pup outside on nice days he doesn’t get that he’s supposed to potty out there. Using an indoor grass patch to potty train your pup is probably a much better solution. Not only can he distinguish where he is supposed to potty from other places, but he will also get somewhat used to what going outside would be like. I haven’t tried an indoor grass patch yet, but I am leaning towards it because my pup cannot tell the difference between a potty pad on a floor and the floor itself.

  152. I am wanting to get one to put on our covered porch for when it is raining. Our Chihuahua will not go to the bathroom on his walks while it is raining. So, he ends up pooing in the house and a couple of times he has peed. So, I am thinking of getting one for inclement weather. I would still put him on his leash and take our walks and try. But if he refuses I thought this would be a good alternative. What do you think? This is our first dog, so I am new to this. Thank you!

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I’ve taken care of little dogs that also don’t want to go to the bathroom in the rain. What I do is walk them until they go, so usually a good half hour. I do this shortly after they eat. If they don’t go, then I put them in their kennels or keep them on a leash near me so I can supervise.

  153. I have fake grass half a yard is fake and its wonderful. I foster and have 9 dogs if I had real grass I would have a yard of mud. With the Doggier Grass I hose it off when its dirty, put a cleaner on it once in awhile and there is no smell. Even in the hottest time of year. Its a life saver for me. All mine are potty trained outside. I paid $7,000 for it but its wonderful. Its been 6 years now and shows no sign of wear. No grass to cut, no fleas and no weeds. I dont know what kind of grass others have but the doggy grass I have is a lifesaver for me. My dogs act like its real grass. Never had a problem with any of them using it. It is not indoor grass but its called doggie grass like astro turff but only better!

  154. This doesn’t prove much of anything. What about potty pads? Are those a “lazy” invention too? What about litter boxes?

  155. This is literally THE WORST ARTICLE I have EVER read on the Internet. Instead of saying what doesn’t work and why, how about giving some solutions and suggestions on what does work?

  156. I have a cocker on a diuretic for heart failure. The diuretic means she can’t go for more than two hours without urinating. I’m going to try the grass pee pad. I also think this is a worthless article

  157. I have an 11 yr old boxer who is having difficulty holding her bladder for long periods of time. By that I mean longer than 4 hrs. I live on a 3rd floor walk up and her hips are not getting any younger. Often I’m lifting her hind legs/ hips to help her up the stairs. My question is if puppy pads/ grass pads would be something I can train her to use in between her walks. I do not want them to be the only option she has since she still has a young spirit about her and we both love going on walls. Just curious about my options and maybe a solution.

  158. I also didn’t care for this article. It seemed to just point a finger accussing dog owners of being lazy when they are simply trying to find solutions to potty train. Another insult from this article was Towards pet owners who work long hours. Leaving your dog, who is not potty trained, in a pen or crate is not the same as leaving your dog tied to a tree outside. People have to work, that is the fact of life. I run an animal rescue and see true neglect on a daily basis. I find that comment to be made by someone who knows little about what neglect and cruelty is. And no, most people do not hire a dog sitter or walker. I am a professional dog sitter, walker, and trainer. Most of my clients are more middle to upper class. This article implies that only the wealthy are the better pet owners. Ugh! I am all for reading and learning about other people’s techniques, reviews, experiences…etc so I can stay current and be open to different approaches. You can never have to many tools in your toolbox! But, this was a finger pointing and judgemental article that did little to offer legitimate pros and cons and offer other solutions that could be applied. If you are going to write an article. …don’t insult your audience. People who stumble upon this article are looking for solutions . This is what responsible pet owners do. Readers did not click and read this article to be insulted.

  159. This list is a bit ridiculous. Sorry, but there is a judgmental and angry tone to your “article” listing reasons why anyone that would use a grass pad is a horrible dog owner. That being said, here are a couple rebuttals, though I’m not sure you’re interested in opposing ideas.

    When puppies are not fully vaccinated, they should not share “real” outdoor grass areas with other animals. Those of us who live in the city do not have access to our own backyards. Should we let the dog go anywhere in the house until they are safe to be outdoors, or are we just to horrible a population (those anti-lawn owners) to deserve the right to pet ownership?

    Some of us in the healthcare industry work 12-hour days, 3 days a week. That puts me home with my puppy 4 hours more than the average 8-hour worker. So am I demonized for leaving my puppy home for 12 hours a day, or a hero for leaving my puppy home for only 36 hours a week?

    If you have something constructive to say, try not insulting your audience before diving into your article. You’ve failed to persuade me because you came out of the gate wagging a finger in my direction. I hope you don’t train your animals that way too.

    1. I LOVE your comment!! You are an great pet owner too. I have physical limitations which preclude me from being able to walk my two mini-dachshunds, and there are no dog walkers in my small condo community in my small town. I use pee pads along with a plastic holder that keeps them in place and they work wonderfully!

  160. While I agree that improper crating has been – and continues to be – used by lazy pet owners who do not want to be bothered with the responsibility that comes with owning a dog, the proper use of crating has been proven to beneficial.

    Dogs are pack animals. In the wild, they would den. Crate training is much like what a dog’s natural environment was like when in the wild.

    As a professional dog walker/pet sitter, I’m educated on the proper reasons and proper way to crate train. Many dogs prefer their crates to being “out in the open” in the home, especially during stressful times; such as a thunderstorm, fireworks, fighting and arguing, and visitors.

    While I don’t know about the accuracy of your last sentence, as there’s no cited evidence to prove your claim, I do know that proper crate training (and not simply buying a crate and shoving Fido in there as a punishment or as a way to not have to pay attention to him) is beneficial to dogs. There are several articles about this subject on the internet, at your local Veterinarian’s clinic, at pet supply stores, at your local Humane Society (Animal Shelter), and yes, at your local dog walker/pet sitter’s office.

    Kathi Howland
    Girl Friday Errand & Shopping Service

      1. I agree. While crates are not for every dog, I plan to crate train all my dogs unless the dog has some sort of fear of the crate. Then I would leave the dog in small room like a bathroom or bedroom or office.

  161. we have a new daschund puppy we want her to be an inside pet we have 50,0000acres in Australia so outdoors & exercise not a problem but we want an inside pet for our children we are currently training her to wee outside by taking her out every hour & she’s always out when the children we do have a fear of snakes if she is out on her own so were going to trial grass matting as even tho she is taken out regularly she is still going inside between being taken out she has been to a vet & has no medical issues we would just like to train her that if she does go inside this is where she can go & not on the floor or carpet etc I would like a reply to what other option we have & how else to stop her I also teach my 2 children by Distance education & cannot be watching her all the time between outside trips while I am in the class room she is with the smaller child I do think grass could work but if you have another suggestion I would be more than happy to try it.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      I would hardly ever recommend training a dog to go potty indoors. If you insist on doing it, the fake grass is probably better than pee pads or a litter box. It’s more natural to a dog than that.

  162. I have a dog that is currently undergoing chemotherapy and having to take prednisone for inflammation. The prednisone causes her to be constantly thirsty and therefore frequently needing to urinate. Although making sure she can do her business responsibly during the day is not an issue, waking up every 2-3 hours at night to get her outside is getting real old. Am I to assume that artificial grass is still a bad idea even in this circumstance? I am torn between laying down cheap rugs or getting the grass just in case she has to go before one of my scheduled pee alarms goes off during the night. I would think laying a cheap rug down would be more counter productive than the grass mat given that my dog (as brilliant as she is) cannot discern between an expensive rug and an el cheapo one.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      If you are unable to get her outside as often as she needs, then yes, I think the fake grass would be a possible option for your situation.

  163. I never write comments but this time I just had to say something. This article should be rewritten. It is abrasive, narrow minded, and ill-informed. Abusive pet owners aren’t reading this article. Why insult your readers?

    What about sick dogs? Owners who can’t walk their dogs because of surgery or something along those lines? Or Or heaven forbid, people who work 9-5 jobs and can only walk the dog three times a day (and can’t afford doggie day care)? Should they all give up their dogs? Can you comment on the number of dogs in shelters and how that would exponentially increase if all of these people had to give up their dog?

    If it was me, I would rewrite it out of pride in my work and fear or having my name tied to a negative piece.

  164. The math is simple. Dogs are not here as an entitlement to us, they are a privilege. If you are away from home 10 hours a day, sorry to give you the cold hard facts, but you shouldn’t have a dog, unless you put it into doggie care or employ a dog sitter/walker every.single.day. If you need to devise some sort of “make-do” so that you won’t be inconvenienced by their elimination, rather than adjusting your lifestyle to accommodate their basic needs, you aren’t a suitable home for a dog, you aren’t rescuing them from anything. There are too many dogs and cats in the world because too many people think they can force their pets to adjust to their laziness just so they can receive the benefit of their unconditional love. Shame on you. Walk your dog.

    1. Apparently you’re not aware that we don’t live in a perfect world.
      When I got my dog (a chow) I was married, due to our work schedules tjere was always someone home with the dog
      Now I’m im the middle of a divorce and I have to work and be out of the house for almost nine hours every day, does that mean I have to give her up? That I shouldn’t have her? Should I take her to a shelter? I live in a city where there’s no doggy daycares or sitters,
      So yes. I agree thaty current condition is not the best for having a dog, but imagine of every owner got rid off their dogs whenever their life gets a little complicated. Btw, I do walk my dog every day.

  165. I am not sure who wrote this (and their limited experience with a broader view on training) but she seems very narrow minded. We take our pups everywhere with us. That includes our Yacht and Plane on business and vacations. We would be lost without our portable artificial grass dog potty (portabledogpotty.com)! Our pups know that when we are traveling that is what they use. Otherwise, they go outside to go to the bathroom with no problems. Dogs are very smart and this “blogger’s” statement makes it sound like dogs are stupid.

    1. LOL I doubt this blogger has ever been on a plane for 20 hours, let alone had a dog on a plane for those grueling 20 hours… 😉

  166. I know the title of this is ‘ten reasons not to buy’ however all of this is written with a bad attitude. Almost like this person despises dogs. I will not be reading or commenting on articles any long. Really turned off by your attitude. Maybe you should write a blog about why you have such a bad attitude. Or how you actually don’t like dogs or understand true dog people. The problem with blogs. Anyone can write them. Especially those without expertise.

  167. A doctor who works for a living and is a great dog owner

    This author is an absolute idiot. You can’t feed your dog without a job. And not everybody works from home. I imagine most people work 9 to 5. If the fake grass works for somebody who are you to insult them? Toy breeds and tea cup breeds are better off on the fake grass then freezing in 3 feet of snow where some people live. And not to mention areas with predatory animals or birds of prey ready to snatch them up before the owner can sometimes react. Maybe your all knowing experience missed a few small breeds that get plenty tired out just running around the house. Dogs can be socialized by taking then to meet other dogs and not only on walks when they need to eliminate waste. The purpose of a walk is not only to eliminate but as a bonding opportunity. I wonder if the author really had any education on writing to a target audience or on all dog breeds. The author most definitely didn’t have experience in real life. Like people have mentioned above people and dogs can have issues in which the artificial grass could be much better than taking them only outside to eliminate. A dog is a pet and must be trained. If somebody wishes to train them to use fake grass for the benefit of the dog or themselves who are you to make insulting comments about it? It’s their dog! Feed the dog. Give it shelter. Give it love. Let it eliminate without having to hold it. That’s a happy dog. The dog is least bothered about if the grass is fake or real. Or if it’s on paper. Dogs that have readily available options of paper or fake grass and won’t have to hold it as long will be less likely to develop UTI’s. I am a doctor and work 12 hours a day for a week and have the next week off. Fake grass works great for me and my four pound Chihuahua. During my week off the whole time is with my dog. Even on the days I work I spend an hour in the morning and night with her. Lazy? I think not. Eleven years of rigorous education, training and testing since high school and a dog my vet considers in excellent health and with great behavior. No accidents in the house. Not one in the last 10 years. Folks if you think fake grass would benefit you then go for it and ignore this idiot. The only problem I’ve had I’d odor. My fix is to use a deodorizer and I replace them after 3-4 months anyway. Hopefully the author learns a lesson or two and doesn’t write a poorly thought out article like this again. If the author does there will be people out there to put her in her place. May God bless you good dog owners out there and God bless America!

  168. A doctor who works for a living and is a great dog owner

    By the way. People are not reacting the way they are in your comments because you are insulting the grass. It is because you are insulting loving dog owners and what they choose to do with their own dog. I hope I’m showing you a little of what you might have made some of these readers feel. Hopefully you learn. When I am at work for those 12 hours a day every other week. I have panning video cameras set up around my house on the floor my Chihuahua stays on and she is asleep when I’m not there or playing with her numerous toys. She’s not sitting and whining or barking out of anxiety. Yes I have audio too. About getting a walker or taking her to a day care. I do not trust people in my house or with my dog if I am not there! Who knows what kind of crazy people out there that might actually abuse her that act perfectly normal and may even be bonded. I’ve seen things in psych rotations in med school you couldn’t even dream of. I feel bad being so harsh on you. But you need to know that just because you can write whatever comes to tip of your tongue doesn’t mean you should. If you do there will be people to show you how it feels and put you in your place. Good day ma’am.

  169. A doctor who works for a living and is a great dog owner

    Another piece of advice for those of you wanting to use indoor methods. If your dog lifts his leg and squirts use a large bin. Take the lid off. Cut out a side of it. Put your paper or fake grass in it. Problem solved. Make sure you disinfect the bin though. I use fake grass on a pee pad in the bin. I get the big storage ones you get for pretty cheap at Wal-Mart or the home depot. I don’t have a boy but I’ve always just had it this way. There are videos on YouTube showing how to do it. Some people use the fake grass. Some use news paper. Some use litter (don’t use cat litter if I remember correctly.) Some use pee pads. Read about it watch the videos and do what you think would work for you. These methods are great for tiny dogs like my Chihuahua. She doesn’t like getting wet nor do I want her freezing in snow that’s 2 or 3 feet high when she’s only 8 inches tall. If you work long hours and can’t afford to have people over to walk your dog or join in day care or don’t want people around your dog when your not there around this is great too. You don’t have to be rich to have a dog. We as human beings have the capability of finding ways around problems or limitations. These indoor methods may be one of them.

    1. Yes! Using a bin or litter box with grass works well. They are less likely to “miss.” I trained my little 3 pound male pommy to go outdoors at an early age. Outdoors is what he prefers. However, I cross-trained him to also go on grass pads for days that I can’t get home in time. This works great for travel as well if I am staying in a high rise hotel. To the author of this article. Try telling a 3 year old baby Pomeranian to hold their bladder for 8 hours until their owner can take them outside. Not going to happen. Some dogs (especially tiny dogs) need indoor options even though outdoors is the first choice.

      1. Meant to say ” 3 pound baby ” Pomeranean above , not 3 year old. My pommy is 4 months old and he can go outside (preferred) or inside on a grass pad. This system works well.

  170. My Brittany is 11 and I live in the country. He is free to run when we are home but stays inside or goes to his kennel when we are at work. I specifically built the kennel for when he got older so he wouldn’t have to hold it all day. The kennel is on concrete and he will not go in his kennel. I thought about just using regular artificial grass or try to build a area and grow grass for him to use. I even thought that if he uses the real grass too often it would just die and what would I do in the winter. I live in Kansas. Grass does not grow in winter. What about buying turf from a landscaper so it can be changed out when grass dies. He’s still able to hold it till we get he but trying to solve the problem for the future. Any suggestions? FYI. Someone dumped him out here around 9 or 10 years ago so he was already house trained.

    1. Lindsay Stordahl

      If you think he needs to relieve himself when you’re gone, you could try any of the things you suggested and see what works.

      I’m not sure how big the kennel is, but I know some dogs are uncomfortable going on fake or real grass in that type of setup so you might have to actually train him to go on it so he knows it’s OK. The fake grass actually sounds easier to deal with and change vs. the real grass.

  171. This “10 reasons” list isn’t even 10 separate reasons. 3 and 4 are the same thing (dogs are gross). 10 and 1 are the same thing (hard to train dogs to use it). 7 isn’t even a reason at all. And if I continue… 9 is for owners who don’t care about their pets in the first place. I don’t know why everyone has to force regular articles into top 10 lists nowadays. What I’m saying is, I read this article thoroughly and I still don’t get it. Dogs are unsanitary, but not all dogs eat their own poop and if owners clean it regularly like they’re supposed to, then what’s the problem? Sometimes there are no options when owners must work some overtime, take long day trips, etc…

  172. And, sometimes weather is a huge, important reason to not take your dog out for extended hours. Where I live, during July and August, temperatures regularly reach 10’F and occasionally up to 11’F. And since there’s not much shade, 90’F weather can be risking it. Do you want me to insist on my short-snouted small dogs walking in that? Waiting around for them to realize they need to finish their business? But I’m really laughing at number 6. It won’t solve every single issue your dog has, so don’t bother using it to help those issues a little bit? Lol???

  173. I have heard great stories of using the fake grass pads while at work. I am having trouble finding one that I don’t have to buy online. Anyone have any suggestions of where I could pick one up at a store?

    Luckily. I have tile floors everywhere but my bedroom. I shut the carpeted room door and got a gate to keep my little puppy in a section of the house so he isn’t going to the bathroom all over the place. I also come home at lunch and let him out for a walk. he is 3 months and doing really well already for going outside when I let him out. The regular pee pads get chewed up and of course all puppies have occasional accidents. He loves and only wants to go in the grass when I walk him, so I really want to try the grass pads. Anyone know where I can go today to get one without ordering online?

  174. I have 2 year pup who uses the training pads to do her business. I live in a flat so its the only solution for us and she doesnt do it anywhere else in the flat.
    I have been looking into buying this training patch to see if its more cost effective and also to find out what others think of it.
    I would specially like to know if the grass becomes smelly quickly and if they sell replaceable fake grass.

  175. I have a 2 year old rescue Chihuahua mix who will only go potty when he’s taken for a walk. I have a tether that reaches inside the door so I can let him out that way, but he still refuses to go unless he is taken for a walk. I love upstairs with offices on the 1st floor. Will the fake grass work in this case, as I am not walking in the rain anymore or in the snow and cold weather. Help!

  176. I see this is an older article.. I have housebroken chihuahua hairless dog mutts, teeny tiny with teeny tiny bladders, and they can hold it for 7-8 hours, but since it takes me about half an hour to and from work and I work 8 hours I’m away for 8-9 hours a day and sometimes they can’t hold it the entire day.. It gives me relief to know that they CAN go to the bathroom if I’m late and don’t have to stress my self half to death during the entire day at work. I walk my dogs before work, after work and at LEAST ones or twice more during the evening before we go to bed and we walk long walks at least 3 times a week (meaning more than a usual walk of half an hour or an hour) where we walk for 3 hours. This is just an emergency solution for me and my dogs because I just want them to be able to use the bathroom if they can’t hold it. We all know sometimes you just gotta go! They do not use my carpets or any other place.

    Also since they are hairless and I live in Norway, a very cold country at winter we also use the fake grass outside my door so they don’t need to walk in the snow if they don’t feel like it in wintertime!

    I am all for the fake indoor grass, but of course, not beccause the owner is lazy and can’t be bothered to walk their dogs, but as a back-up solution!

  177. I want to get an indoor fake grass pee for my dog because my dog never pee in the garden or the yard. She only pee & potty when we out for walk . Sometimes if i bring her to the city she wont pee for 3 days , or if it rains she will try to hold her pee until next walk no matter how long it might be. So i think for dog like that they need to be train to go indoor when they needed to and this maybe 1 of the solution.

  178. Oh my, what a hot button this is & I judge no one. I have 2 rescues, a border collie mix & a Havanese. The border collie was 1 when we adopted him not trained but only took 2 wks to get it. The Havanese was being fostered by a woman who worked & used pads. I’ve had this sweet adorable dog that looks like a teddy bear close to 2 yrs now & if I’m not hypervigilant she goes in the house! She goes out regularly & I can get her to come to the door with treats & ringing a bell , never by herself, but will just as soon go the floor! It’s just so hard to break that habit when they’ve been trained to go inside & don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. When we had the recent blizzard we took her out 5 x before she’d pee in the snow! I’ve never taken a dog out so much & I’ve had many dogs over the years,very frustrating, I always have paper towels & natures miracle on hand, this is my first small dog since childhood & I love her to pieces but she’s one tough cookie!

  179. Lindsay,
    you are absolutely right for centuries people were trained dogs to go outside to do their business.
    The modern businessmen are trying to be inventive and make money on anything that possible and impossible.

  180. I guess all small dog owners are only able to sleep 4-6 hours at a time? If you think pee pads are expensive, try the time and hassle of fake grass. A plastic liner (i.e. Washing machine pan, large litter box) with sod is the way to go. If it works for your dog, you can buy or build a wooden surround so the area is more aesthetically pleasing. Out here a 20″x40″ strip of sod is only $2.50 USD. Hope this helps!

  181. I get not using these for dogs in general, but some of us HAVE to use them at a certain point. My dog is 15 and is becoming incontinent. Obviously I’ve been to a vet (no UTI found, medication not working, etc) and this is the last option available. Sorry, but rather reading over and over again how you don’t like this option I’d like more information for those of us who have run out of options and are trying to find ways for our aging dogs to be as comfortable as possible.

  182. Guilty! Yes I am one of those people I used to talk smack about. Ugh! My 8lb Chi mix uses pads indoors. She was so tiny when I brought her home at around 10 weeks, I just could not imagine her going outside ;like the other dogs. That was in March. Then, in July, we had coyotes show up for the first time (2015) in our neighborhood and that really scared me so night time potty outside was out of the question. I own a studio cottage & considered a dog door with an enclosure but other household maintenance took priority. Excuses excuses. I’m a dog walker so getting her out is not the issue. The issue is me!
    Very protective! I had a coyote come within 3-4 feet of my foster dog one evening at 5pm (when it gets dark early) going from the car parked directly in front of my house to inside up the walkway. I’m really self conscious about the pee pads & smell. I use reusable and even have a separate small portable washer for them. It’s a labor of love. My 12 lb foster dog, however does go outside and has never used the pads.

  183. My friend recently got an Italian mastiff puppy who is now 4 months old. He was trained on one of those fake grass boxes, which hasn’t done much good in the long run. He will ONLY pee on that, or anything that is a square shape (rugs, dog beds, cushions, etc.). Now we’re trying to figure out how to break him from the fake grass square because he’ll hold his pee until he finds another square to relieve himself on. Even if he’s been walked around in a huge field of grass! He just won’t go.
    I’ve also known other dogs who were trained on the fake grass squares, and they too have a preference for square-shaped items as a place to pee. I think the pee pads and fake grass boxes are stupid and do absolutely no good!

  184. We will be getting one for our older dog since we are in a high rise building and putting it on the balcony. I think it’s be super confusing for him if it was inside. But sometimes in the middle of the night he has to go despite taking him out right before bed since he’s older and he gets upset if he’s had an “accident” in the house. Putting this on the balcony for his emergencies seems to be the kindest solution for him.

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